Councilestatekid 2,112 Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 6 minutes ago, Greyman said: Here’s my thoughts while we have a moment to talk the 80s was a prolific time for sightings because the animals were first generation releases now the few that remain have now got there own territory which they know like the back of there hand so we see them less as they have naturalised to there environment?? To be honest I find the whole big cat debate interesting(when it's about big cats). Know a keeper who before was keeper used to travel to Africa to fetch the animals back to zoo's and safari parks and he had seen a big cat now this is a man I belive. But said keeper also said he'd seen big cat that had been shot but it got buried with only 3 people ever knowing about it as they didn't want the hassle trouble with the law now he didn't know if was same one as he saw or not but in the same area. Now here's my question greyman say these cats were in the wild and a few on here have said people have seen dead ones in a barn in Norfolk and also other places. Well if people had shot ran over or whatever over the years and covered it up how many of the original releases you think would of survived all these years and how possible for then said cats to meet and then breed? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arry 24,590 Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 8 minutes ago, Bosun11 said: Thing is, most of those that come on this forum don't want just a laugh. Some would rather read interesting posts about hunting/shooting/ fishing etc. With a laugh along the way... That's the way this forum used to be, with some great and genuine, fieldsports men and women contributing. There was more respect, there were better laughs. Almost all of them are gone now, driven off by the 'it's all just a piss take' mentality... And when there are no fieldsports publications around anymore, there are few places to go. It comes to something when the Facebook groups now offer better content than this forum... Excellent post Bosun. Cheers Arry 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 3,031 Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 24 minutes ago, Greyman said: Here’s my thoughts while we have a moment to talk the 80s was a prolific time for sightings because the animals were first generation releases now the few that remain have now got there own territory which they know like the back of there hand so we see them less as they have naturalised to there environment?? when you say a few do you mean a few hundred like previously stated or a few as in not many at all Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 14,020 Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 1 hour ago, Arry said: I gave up commenting on this thread a it was pointless any positive input was shot down as being a liar or nut case. This morning how the mood of the site has changed, for the better mind. Greb in my view is probably an Anti as he does not hunt or fish puts no country skills up no positive input. His aim is just attention seeking and stirring up the site. So if your Banned your Banned tough shit you've had your chances. I would love for the Big Cat Thread to stay and people that find it interesting post stuff and people that don't believe just leave it alone. I don't comment of football or boxing threads as I'm not really interested isn't that the way it should be. Cheers Arry If he is an anti, he's just picked up a running pup lol I agree this has been an interesting thread, long may it continue to be so Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 15,585 Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 25 minutes ago, Bosun11 said: Thing is, most of those that come on this forum don't want just a laugh. Some would rather read interesting posts about hunting/shooting/ fishing etc. With a laugh along the way... That's the way this forum used to be, with some great and genuine, fieldsports men and women contributing. There was more respect, there were better laughs. Almost all of them are gone now, driven off by the 'it's all just a piss take' mentality... And when there are no fieldsports publications around anymore, there are few places to go. It comes to something when the Facebook groups now offer better content than this forum... how do you win though lol i’ll put up this season but you get the same saying the same shit why talk about it put clips blah blah blah and this is when you put hunting related stuff up on a hunting site Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 11,342 Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 (edited) 14 hours ago, Welsh_red said: Lets forget the "is there cats or not" discussion. Greyman is adamant in his own mind what hes seen and spends free time trying to get evidence I see zero problem in that , hurts nobody at all . People dont agree and that's fine that's everybody's right Theirs loads of angles that greb comes at him and some of them are genuine thought for discussion and examining. But its a million different angles and different people talking over eachother it just turns into a mess on here . Hes looking for big cats in the uk not fairies or pixies, big cats do exist in the world and there could be a population out there I dont know for sure . If there were I dont know how many there could possibly be . Its all up in the air But it is a very interesting discussion and one that in the future might be proved right (or wrong) , its a lovely thought thay there might be a little mystery left on this island It's not just greyman that has seen big cats in the uk, though, mate, more than a few members of this site have seen them, so, are they all liars, retards, or fantasists, which is what greb calls them! Not having a dig at you personally lol 14 hours ago, Timmy H said: Seen two back in the 1980s, witnessed by other people. Nothing since. Back last year I saw a pine marten on Exmoor, others said "crap" but I reported it and found out there was 2 other sightings within a mile, confirmed by trailcam but asked to keep it quiet. Could be the same with cat sightings? Good post. Not seen any myself, big cats nor pine martens. But ain't gonna call people liars, retards or fantasists if they claim to have seen them. The uk has loads of areas, where big cats could quite easily thrive in. 5 hours ago, Arry said: I gave up commenting on this thread a it was pointless any positive input was shot down as being a liar or nut case. This morning how the mood of the site has changed, for the better mind. His aim is just attention seeking and stirring up the site. I would love for the Big Cat Thread to stay and people that find it interesting post stuff and people that don't believe just leave it alone. I don't comment of football or boxing threads as I'm not really interested isn't that the way it should be. Cheers Arry Exactly that, Arry. And as you say, there are subtopics on this site I've never looked at in the 15 years I've been on here. Edited July 7 by shaaark 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FLATTOP 5,110 Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 The digs at each other it’s all fair game but the nasty jibes at wives and mothers ect that would make me take up arms and hunt the fuckers down who were having a go it’s not on at all. I don’t know why the Grebster is so confrontational personally I don’t get involved in petty squabbles, but I guarantee he will be back if he isn’t back already. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bosun11 537 Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 24 minutes ago, mC HULL said: how do you win though lol i’ll put up this season but you get the same saying the same shit why talk about it put clips blah blah blah and this is when you put hunting related stuff up on a hunting site And that's just the thing, it's not about winning, no one should be trying to 'win' anything. If you, like everyone else, puts up posts that you feel would be interesting & informative, along with honest & respectful questions, the forum would be much better. I've laughed so hard I've had tears running down my cheeks at some of the posts on here, and there's nothing wrong with that. But not these days. These days there is little wit, and more disrespect. Disrespect, name calling and going off subject, which i don't see much of on the FB pages, because posters on there can't hide behind usernames, and everyone can find anyone if they go looking. Enough said, now let's get back to the topic about big cats.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 48,347 Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 I don't think Greb is an anti,the same way I don't think GM is a fraud or anyone else who claims too of seen a big cat in the UK countryside ...I've been fortunate enough to see Pine martins in the Highlands,proper wild polecats in the Welsh countryside,wild boar , otters , terrapins/turtles in local carp lakes,ospreys....I've dug places where the land owners never ever seen a badger on their land...you can live somewhere for years and not see half of what goes on.... Something grabbed my attention earlier on fools book... apparently a sawfish has washed up on a beach on the Welsh coast? Log into Facebook WWW.(!64.56:886 Log into Facebook to start sharing and connecting with your friends, family, and people you know. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 31,239 Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 1 hour ago, Councilestatekid said: To be honest I find the whole big cat debate interesting(when it's about big cats). Know a keeper who before was keeper used to travel to Africa to fetch the animals back to zoo's and safari parks and he had seen a big cat now this is a man I belive. But said keeper also said he'd seen big cat that had been shot but it got buried with only 3 people ever knowing about it as they didn't want the hassle trouble with the law now he didn't know if was same one as he saw or not but in the same area. Now here's my question greyman say these cats were in the wild and a few on here have said people have seen dead ones in a barn in Norfolk and also other places. Well if people had shot ran over or whatever over the years and covered it up how many of the original releases you think would of survived all these years and how possible for then said cats to meet and then breed? The big problem is most of you don’t no me from Adam so why should you believe me? I’m to simple to be a liar so if your willing to take my word for it I’m a bit further on than if it’s happening I have seen footage of mother and cubs and of mating so to me it’s no doubt what is going on and the rise in deer populations has massively helped Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 31,239 Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 55 minutes ago, greg64 said: when you say a few do you mean a few hundred like previously stated or a few as in not many at all In the over all scheme of things a couple of hundred is just a few when we consider 30,000 urban fox’s living in city’s against possibly a few hundred over the entire uk still very needle in a haystack 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Councilestatekid 2,112 Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 1 minute ago, Greyman said: The big problem is most of you don’t no me from Adam so why should you believe me? I’m to simple to be a liar so if your willing to take my word for it I’m a bit further on than if it’s happening I have seen footage of mother and cubs and of mating so to me it’s no doubt what is going on and the rise in deer populations has massively helped Do you find most of your findings are to Pacific areas or all over the country like say more in the south rather than the North or Midlands Wales Scotland etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 15,585 Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 15 minutes ago, Bosun11 said: And that's just the thing, it's not about winning, no one should be trying to 'win' anything. If you, like everyone else, puts up posts that you feel would be interesting & informative, along with honest & respectful questions, the forum would be much better. I've laughed so hard I've had tears running down my cheeks at some of the posts on here, and there's nothing wrong with that. But not these days. These days there is little wit, and more disrespect. Disrespect, name calling and going off subject, which i don't see much of on the FB pages, because posters on there can't hide behind usernames, and everyone can find anyone if they go looking. Enough said, now let's get back to the topic about big cats.... it’s a saying isn’t it that has nothing to do with winning ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 27,469 Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 7 minutes ago, Greyman said: The big problem is most of you don’t no me from Adam so why should you believe me? I’m to simple to be a liar so if your willing to take my word for it I’m a bit further on than if it’s happening I have seen footage of mother and cubs and of mating so to me it’s no doubt what is going on and the rise in deer populations has massively helped Why I asked you where in Northumberland that was mate , is because I got thinking about places like Wooler, where I have followed the College Valley Hounds and did a bit of beating. It’s a huge expanse of wild and desolate, sparsely populated land ; heather fells, woodland, hills and the Cheviot mountains, few roads. There are abundant amounts of hares, rabbits , roe, and even herds of wild goats. So if there are big cats in that area, it would be a perfect place for them to thrive and go unnoticed. Cheers. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 27,469 Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 9 minutes ago, mC HULL said: it’s a saying isn’t it that has nothing to do with winning ? There’s a saying; “it’s not the winning, but the taking part”. Theres also a saying; “no one remembers who came second” ! LOL ! Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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