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1 hour ago, BenBhoy said:

It makes me wonder how some thick twaťs get by in life - do you still wear velcro pumps??? 

HAHA CHILL OUT BENT BOY NO NEED FOR INSULTS  WHAT ARE V PUMPS  THIS THICK c**t HAS NEVER HEARD OF THEM 

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Could of called that old chestnut,  it's not that I'm in the slightest bit bothered where he sticks his pee pee, it's just the way it's pushed onto the youth of today that passes me off. Ask yourself

Sometimes I wonder why I keep coming on thl....then I realised we have gone from lily fckin savage to Paul Sykes and who's done most bird in 28 pages... .....you simply cannot find that high leve

Are you two auditioning for some new Guy Ritchie movie ?  “No Bangers & Mash In Armely…..Only Porridge ”, or maybe “Snatch’d In’t ‘Ull”. PMSL ! Cheers.

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3 hours ago, tonyormy1 said:

went the hosbital a few years back sitting there me and me bird talking to this doctor and he says he wants to check my postate I said to me bird whats he on about i was horrified said to doctor listen mate i dont care you aint sticking youre finger in my botty my bird looks at me  i said dont say nothink lets go  still traumetised to this day  I NEARLY GOT FINGERD BY A MAN 

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@VOONseems starmer knew an was willing to apolagise for not dealing with the cases according to his right hand man prosecutor.

What do you make of this read carefully

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My first boss: Nazir Afzal, former chief crown prosecutor, on Keir Starmer

27 May 2022·6-min read
PRESTON, UNITED KINGDOM - JUNE 17: Chief Crown porsecutor Nazir Afzal (R) and Chief Supp Neil Esseen speak to media after Broadcaster Stuart Hall was sentenced to 15 months in prison at Preston Crown Court on June 17, 2013 in Preston, England. The 83-year-old former television and radio presenter had pleaded guilty to 14 charges of indecent assault against 13 girls between 1967 and 1985. (Photo by Nigel Roddis/Getty Images)
 
Chief crown prosecutor Nazir Afzal, right, speaks to the media after broadcaster Stuart Hall was sentenced to 15 months in prison in 2013. Photo: Nigel Roddis/Getty More

Birmingham-born Nazir Afzal was the chief crown prosecutor for north-west England and led the Rochdale grooming gang cases in 2012, overturning a decision by the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) not to bring charges.

During his near 25-year career, he nationally led issues of violence against women and girls, child sexual abuse and honour-based violence.

 

Described as an "outstanding public servant", his book The Prosecutor was published in 2020 and is currently being turned into a British TV drama with Keeley Hawes. In April, he became the University of Manchester's new chancellor.

In 2008, when I was acting chief prosecutor for London, the government appointed Keir Starmer as director for public prosecutions and head of the CPS which meant I directly reported to him.

Keir recognised that one of my key strengths was engagement with the public and he pretty much told me to get out there and explain to the public what we do, why we do it and to bring back intelligence as to what they were concerned about.

Read more: My first boss: Nick Wheeler, founder of shirt maker Charles Tyrwhitt

To demonstrate his willingness to do this in his first few weeks, we both went to a school in north London where we explained the role of prosecutors. I hadn’t appreciated that it was a primary school and the conversations turned to police cars and uniforms! But the intent was there and for Keir, with teachers in attendance, it was a first chance to talk about the role.

My first impressions were that he left me to my own devices, which I was delighted about, trusted me and I could share anything or speak with him directly.

He made it his mission, as part of his responsibility for all the prosecutions in England and Wales, to get around everywhere. We were on the road a lot and would occasionally meet at train stations and he wanted me to find him the people — local groups, agencies, charities, NGOs — that he needed to speak to.

Keir Starmer QC, the director of public prosecutions, publishes his final guidelines on prosecutions for assisted suicide at the CPS at Ludgate Hill.
 
Keir Starmer QC, during his time as director of public prosecutions. Photo: PA

We then had to reduce our budgets with a new government and the CPS decided to regionalise as a result. I told Keir that I wanted to move to the north-west where the prosecution service was the equivalent size to London. It was an opportunity to work in a new environment and area where I knew nobody, but with similar case loads when I was chief in London, at a time when my children were relatively young and I never saw them. My quality of life was poor and I explained it to Keir, who quickly understood.

Almost immediately, I found the north-west even more challenging than London and I became aware of the Rochdale grooming gangs. The only way we could bring that case was to admit that we had failed these victims when they had first made a complaint in 2008. Keir was 100% behind the decision to publicly admit that we had got it wrong in the past. He then said we should change the policy, no longer would we say that a decision was unreasonable and we would also use the word "wrong". This was an acknowledgement that we had failed and that we wanted to put them right.

Read more: My first boss: Jessie Childs, British author and historian

I had arrived to a baptism of fire, which also included a household which killed a burglar. Under pressure from the national press, I needed to move swiftly and I decided not to prosecute the householder, making it clear that we would stand by those who defend their homes. Again, Keir didn't blink at my decision and he told me to stand in front of the cameras and explain what I had done.

It was about reassurance and Keir was not seeking publicity for himself. Having been a lawyer, he didn’t have the experience of dealing with the public as much as I had. I knew I could lean on him for law and general support, and he looked to me for opening doors to community groups and was prepared to put himself in situations he had never been in before.

BIRMINGHAM, ENGLAND - MARCH 07: Nazir Afzal, winner of the Lifetime Achievement award, presented by Adil Ray (L), in the winners room during the Pride Of Birmingham Awards 2022 at University of Birmingham on March 07, 2022 in Birmingham, England. (Photo by Anthony Devlin/Getty Images)
 
Nazir Afzal (R), winner of the Lifetime Achievement award, presented by Adil Ray (L) during the Pride Of Birmingham Awards in March 2022. Photo: Anthony Devlin/Getty More

When we had the riots and disorders, I came across a situation where the police force couldn’t cope and were using vans to hold people. We managed to open the courts for literally nights in order to free up the capacity. Keir didn’t need explanations and said "yes, let’s do it".

By now I had prosecuted criminals for 20 years, yet nobody had ever come to my home. I had far-right supporters outside my house and needed police protection, while my children went to school in taxis for months. I received thousands of emails and was drowning in the abuse — even though I had got every decision right — and I couldn’t hide away from the abuse cases. I knew my family had to be kept safe and Keir was the first to make that all happen.

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I explained to him that we needed to look at the other sexual abuse cases and to bring forward any which had been dealt with wrongly. In a short space of time we were jointly running these panels and reversing decision after decision, while supporting the police which had brought Max Clifford, Rolf Harris and others before the court. Keir was clear in his mind that history tells us that abuse happened decades ago and he simply asked what resources I needed.

I had known previous bosses who had said if there was any media, that they would deal with it and they were quick to take credit for successes. With Keir it was never the case and in his mind I had become the expert. I hope in some small way we have changed the landscape of child protection.

Keir left in 2013, the CPS having gone from being dire at doing sex abuse cases to having the highest conviction rate in our history. That wouldn’t have been possible without the support, resources and the protection I was given by Keir, at a time when it would have been easier to give up.

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Ever since my hair turned from grey to white and needing to wear glasses all the time some of my friends (?) have taken great delight in asking people, often complete strangers do you think he looks like Paul O' Grady?. Don't see it myself, apart from anything else I am way more masculine and butch. But apparently I do bear a passing resemblance to the late female impersonator.

One night a friend (?) asked me to attend a charity race night that he had put on to lend moral and financial support. He was set up in the function room of a club, the big screen for the races on the stage and the "bookies" set up on tables in front of the stage. He was on the mic towards the back of the room giving his patter and announced that the 1st race will start in 10 minutes so lets see you all up placing bets and generating some money. That was my queue.

Walked across the dance floor as the lights dimmed to start placing bets, a lead for others to follow suit. When I got to the tables my friend (?) said, it wasn't on the tickets but my good friend Paul O' Grady is here tonight and will be signing autographs and  will be available for selfies. 

I looked into the room and every eye in the place was on me. By then I was literally in the spot light. What could I do? Shrugged my shoulders, gave a wave (a masculine wave) and said alright chucks. It got a bit of laugh from the room but mostly from the table that my friends (?) were sitting at. They were pissing themselves. Twats!

I got the last laugh though. Won a big flat screen TV on the last race. Heard some old biddie say I see that Paul O'Grady bloke won the tele, fix!

 

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10 hours ago, NEWKID said:

f***ing hate bullies mate, always have..There was a gay lad at our school, was a decent enough lad, obviously got some stick as schools are like that.. saw him a few years back, he's married a bloke and lives in Bristol now... was never over the top as such, had a decent yap for half an hour or so with him... don't affect me at all what life he chooses to lead.

 

As far as comparing gays to paedophiles, ffs! that's retarded 

Your to grown up for this site ! 

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3 hours ago, tonyormy1 said:

went the hosbital a few years back sitting there me and me bird talking to this doctor and he says he wants to check my postate I said to me bird whats he on about i was horrified said to doctor listen mate i dont care you aint sticking youre finger in my botty my bird looks at me  i said dont say nothink lets go  still traumetised to this day  I NEARLY GOT FINGERD BY A MAN 

if you didn't fancy the physical prostate examination, you can have a blood test for prostate checks if that makes you feel more comfortable bud......i had a full check up last year.....livers, kidneys, heart, cholesterol, prostate etc. etc....by a simple blood test....everything came back with good results and my (PSA) prostate level is 1.2 ng/ml....for my age group (50-60) the range is 0-3.5 ng/ml which is a good result....but i do think the physical examination is more accurate though.......

if i did have any concerns/symptoms about my prostate i would go to the doctors and have a examination for sure......   

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9 minutes ago, tillylamp said:

if you didn't fancy the physical prostate examination, you can have a blood test for prostate checks if that makes you feel more comfortable bud......i had a full check up last year.....livers, kidneys, heart, cholesterol, prostate etc. etc....by a simple blood test....everything came back with good results and my (PSA) prostate level is 1.2 ng/ml....for my age group (50-60) the range is 0-3.5 ng/ml which is a good result....but i do think the physical examination is more accurate though.......

if i did have any concerns/symptoms about my prostate i would go to the doctors and have a examination for sure......   

Had a couple of prostate examinations myself, the last few years, for a couple of different reasons.

No big deal.

Don't know why all the MACHO HE MEN on this site make such a big deal about it.

f***ing grow up, you REAL HARDCORE MEN!!!

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2 hours ago, Francie, said:

@VOONseems starmer knew an was willing to apolagise for not dealing with the cases according to his right hand man prosecutor.

What do you make of this read carefully

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My first boss: Nazir Afzal, former chief crown prosecutor, on Keir Starmer

27 May 2022·6-min read
PRESTON, UNITED KINGDOM - JUNE 17: Chief Crown porsecutor Nazir Afzal (R) and Chief Supp Neil Esseen speak to media after Broadcaster Stuart Hall was sentenced to 15 months in prison at Preston Crown Court on June 17, 2013 in Preston, England. The 83-year-old former television and radio presenter had pleaded guilty to 14 charges of indecent assault against 13 girls between 1967 and 1985. (Photo by Nigel Roddis/Getty Images)
 
Chief crown prosecutor Nazir Afzal, right, speaks to the media after broadcaster Stuart Hall was sentenced to 15 months in prison in 2013. Photo: Nigel Roddis/Getty More

Birmingham-born Nazir Afzal was the chief crown prosecutor for north-west England and led the Rochdale grooming gang cases in 2012, overturning a decision by the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) not to bring charges.

During his near 25-year career, he nationally led issues of violence against women and girls, child sexual abuse and honour-based violence.

 

Described as an "outstanding public servant", his book The Prosecutor was published in 2020 and is currently being turned into a British TV drama with Keeley Hawes. In April, he became the University of Manchester's new chancellor.

In 2008, when I was acting chief prosecutor for London, the government appointed Keir Starmer as director for public prosecutions and head of the CPS which meant I directly reported to him.

Keir recognised that one of my key strengths was engagement with the public and he pretty much told me to get out there and explain to the public what we do, why we do it and to bring back intelligence as to what they were concerned about.

Read more: My first boss: Nick Wheeler, founder of shirt maker Charles Tyrwhitt

To demonstrate his willingness to do this in his first few weeks, we both went to a school in north London where we explained the role of prosecutors. I hadn’t appreciated that it was a primary school and the conversations turned to police cars and uniforms! But the intent was there and for Keir, with teachers in attendance, it was a first chance to talk about the role.

My first impressions were that he left me to my own devices, which I was delighted about, trusted me and I could share anything or speak with him directly.

He made it his mission, as part of his responsibility for all the prosecutions in England and Wales, to get around everywhere. We were on the road a lot and would occasionally meet at train stations and he wanted me to find him the people — local groups, agencies, charities, NGOs — that he needed to speak to.

Keir Starmer QC, the director of public prosecutions, publishes his final guidelines on prosecutions for assisted suicide at the CPS at Ludgate Hill.
 
Keir Starmer QC, during his time as director of public prosecutions. Photo: PA

We then had to reduce our budgets with a new government and the CPS decided to regionalise as a result. I told Keir that I wanted to move to the north-west where the prosecution service was the equivalent size to London. It was an opportunity to work in a new environment and area where I knew nobody, but with similar case loads when I was chief in London, at a time when my children were relatively young and I never saw them. My quality of life was poor and I explained it to Keir, who quickly understood.

Almost immediately, I found the north-west even more challenging than London and I became aware of the Rochdale grooming gangs. The only way we could bring that case was to admit that we had failed these victims when they had first made a complaint in 2008. Keir was 100% behind the decision to publicly admit that we had got it wrong in the past. He then said we should change the policy, no longer would we say that a decision was unreasonable and we would also use the word "wrong". This was an acknowledgement that we had failed and that we wanted to put them right.

Read more: My first boss: Jessie Childs, British author and historian

I had arrived to a baptism of fire, which also included a household which killed a burglar. Under pressure from the national press, I needed to move swiftly and I decided not to prosecute the householder, making it clear that we would stand by those who defend their homes. Again, Keir didn't blink at my decision and he told me to stand in front of the cameras and explain what I had done.

It was about reassurance and Keir was not seeking publicity for himself. Having been a lawyer, he didn’t have the experience of dealing with the public as much as I had. I knew I could lean on him for law and general support, and he looked to me for opening doors to community groups and was prepared to put himself in situations he had never been in before.

BIRMINGHAM, ENGLAND - MARCH 07: Nazir Afzal, winner of the Lifetime Achievement award, presented by Adil Ray (L), in the winners room during the Pride Of Birmingham Awards 2022 at University of Birmingham on March 07, 2022 in Birmingham, England. (Photo by Anthony Devlin/Getty Images)
 
Nazir Afzal (R), winner of the Lifetime Achievement award, presented by Adil Ray (L) during the Pride Of Birmingham Awards in March 2022. Photo: Anthony Devlin/Getty More

When we had the riots and disorders, I came across a situation where the police force couldn’t cope and were using vans to hold people. We managed to open the courts for literally nights in order to free up the capacity. Keir didn’t need explanations and said "yes, let’s do it".

By now I had prosecuted criminals for 20 years, yet nobody had ever come to my home. I had far-right supporters outside my house and needed police protection, while my children went to school in taxis for months. I received thousands of emails and was drowning in the abuse — even though I had got every decision right — and I couldn’t hide away from the abuse cases. I knew my family had to be kept safe and Keir was the first to make that all happen.

Read more: My first boss: Anne Boden, CEO and founder of Starling Bank

I explained to him that we needed to look at the other sexual abuse cases and to bring forward any which had been dealt with wrongly. In a short space of time we were jointly running these panels and reversing decision after decision, while supporting the police which had brought Max Clifford, Rolf Harris and others before the court. Keir was clear in his mind that history tells us that abuse happened decades ago and he simply asked what resources I needed.

I had known previous bosses who had said if there was any media, that they would deal with it and they were quick to take credit for successes. With Keir it was never the case and in his mind I had become the expert. I hope in some small way we have changed the landscape of child protection.

Keir left in 2013, the CPS having gone from being dire at doing sex abuse cases to having the highest conviction rate in our history. That wouldn’t have been possible without the support, resources and the protection I was given by Keir, at a time when it would have been easier to give up.

OK Francis….I’ll bite…what exactly is your point?

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Just now, Francie, said:

That starmer knew all about the grooming gangs

Now Francie….away with you….we were talking about Saville….no changing of goalposts and changing the narrative to suit your synopsis….

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