gnasher16 29,664 Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 On 15/06/2020 at 14:08, Dougieboy said: Where would Casius Clay have been if he only had one arm? . the whole point of Tyson being judged a great mover is because of his sheer size. If he was shorter, wouldn’t that make him move even better? we have to judge the fighter in front of us and for me he’s the best our country has to offer. He’s undefeated up until now and I hope it stays that way. Dougie Brilliant i love it. I mean would Pele really have been the worlds greatest footballer if he only had 1 leg.....Phil Taylor the greatest darts player if he had no thumbs....magnificent....fair play mate you certainly know sport 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dougieboy 250 Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, gnasher16 said: Brilliant i love it. I mean would Pele really have been the worlds greatest footballer if he only had 1 leg.....Phil Taylor the greatest darts player if he had no thumbs....magnificent....fair play mate you certainly know sport Is this the post where I was referring to someone asking where fury would be if he was 5inches shorter? If so what does that have to do with my knowledge of sport? Coming from someone who once said Gaza was the best English footballer we’ve ever produced, I’ll let that go over my head Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 29,664 Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 On 15/06/2020 at 19:14, Astanley said: The point I'm trying to make is ...if the middleweight limit for some reason was stretched to 14 stone ,then some run of the mill cruiserweight today would be capable of beating any middleweight in history ,....would that make him the best middleweight ever ?.....heavyweights are so much bigger nowadays but that doesn't make them the best ....and yes I know there were giants in the past ,but they were few and far between ,so rare that most on here could name them ...I personally don't give a rats ass about Fury Wilder AJ ,they are all crap in comparison to some of the fighters of the past . Bang on.....purely for reasons of " tradition " will boxing not come into the 21st century. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 29,664 Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, Dougieboy said: Is this the post where I was referring to someone asking where fury would be if he was 5inches shorter? If so what does that have to do with my knowledge of sport? Coming from someone who once said Gaza was the best English footballer we’ve ever produced, I’ll let that go over my head Would you explain to me how having 2 arms is an advantage in the boxing ring ?......unless fighting somebody with only 1 arm of course Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dougieboy 250 Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 53 minutes ago, gnasher16 said: Would you explain to me how having 2 arms is an advantage in the boxing ring ?......unless fighting somebody with only 1 arm of course Would you explain why you’ve taken my post out of context and then used it to make a similar point to the one I was making in the first place? The point I was obviously making (simply enough) Is that you can’t judge a fighter with hypotheticals. If he was half a foot shorter is no different to if he had one arm. It’s fictional so void of argument. Judge the man before you. quite Sporting really hey Gnasher 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,808 Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dougieboy said: Would you explain why you’ve taken my post out of context and then used it to make a similar point to the one I was making in the first place? The point I was obviously making (simply enough) Is that you can’t judge a fighter with hypotheticals. If he was half a foot shorter is no different to if he had one arm. It’s fictional so void of argument. Judge the man before you. quite Sporting really hey Gnasher Spot on. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,140 Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dougieboy said: Would you explain why you’ve taken my post out of context and then used it to make a similar point to the one I was making in the first place? The point I was obviously making (simply enough) Is that you can’t judge a fighter with hypotheticals. If he was half a foot shorter is no different to if he had one arm. It’s fictional so void of argument. Judge the man before you. quite Sporting really hey Gnasher having only one arm is a massive difference, to just being a few inches shorter than someone, especially if you intend to fight in a boxing match, the guy with TWO arms obviously having the 'slight' advantage! Hypothetically speaking, of course ............. Edited July 6, 2020 by shaaark 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dougieboy 250 Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 17 minutes ago, shaaark said: having only one arm is a massive difference, to just being a few inches shorter than someone, especially if you intend to fight in a boxing match, the guy with TWO arms obviously having the 'slight' advantage! Hypothetically speaking, of course ............. Wow! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,140 Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dougieboy said: Wow! Chill out mate, no seriousness involved Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 1 hour ago, shaaark said: having only one arm is a massive difference, to just being a few inches shorter than someone, especially if you intend to fight in a boxing match, the guy with TWO arms obviously having the 'slight' advantage! Hypothetically speaking, of course ............. Not against a man with 3 arms. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,140 Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 30 minutes ago, walshie said: Not against a man with 3 arms. Of course, but, what if his opponent was 18 inches taller, that'd be an interesting bout 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, shaaark said: Of course, but, what if his opponent was 18 inches taller, that'd be an interesting bout Now you're just being ridiculous. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
king 11,664 Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 2 hours ago, shaaark said: having only one arm is a massive difference, to just being a few inches shorter than someone, especially if you intend to fight in a boxing match, the guy with TWO arms obviously having the 'slight' advantage! Hypothetically speaking, of course ............. It depends really the man with 2 arms could have a broken wrist. Or a hand like Jeremy Beadle. Or a massive case of tennis elbow that has doctors puzzled by the amount of tennis elbow in 1 man. So that would even things up a bit maybe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
low plains drifter 9,467 Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 2 hours ago, shaaark said: having only one arm is a massive difference, to just being a few inches shorter than someone, especially if you intend to fight in a boxing match, the guy with TWO arms obviously having the 'slight' advantage! Hypothetically speaking, of course ............. Never forget the old adage, two arm man bests one armed man, unless one armed mans arm is the size of a telegraph pole Quote Link to post Share on other sites
king 11,664 Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, low plains drifter said: Never forget the old adage, two arm man bests one armed man, unless one armed mans arm is the size of a telegraph pole But 2 armed man could have a horse shoe in his glove. So 1 armed telegraph pole arm man would be in trouble. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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