NEWKID 26,211 Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 How the f**k do I keep the Mrs in check now?? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ginger beard 4,652 Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 I had to wear one on a stag do.ban em. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dinosaurs 2,008 Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 3 hours ago, scothunter said: I was given one that vibrates and the other setting is a high pitched whistle. Never used it or needed it but some wee scrote taxed it from a shop and gave it to me lol If anyone has need for it let me know you can have it. Tried to pm you bud not sure if pm gone through. Atb Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 Yea replied mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ands 492 Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 The vibrate-whistle can be seriously handy for recall. Shock collars can be cruel in the wrong hands but how many dog haven't had to be PTS because the collars sorted out their bad had habits? 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nothernlite 18,028 Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 10 hours ago, edrd said: How did we train without them never had the need to use one ?dogs are with me every single day ? +1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 2,567 Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 shock collars have been banned in wales for years Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rabbit Hunter 6,608 Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 I have two terriers that, if I didn't have bark collars on them during the day, I wouldn't be able to keep. They're barking b*****ds and the collars keep them in check, they get a beep if they bark once and if they bark again within 30 seconds they get a shock. These legislations are an absolute disgrace. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forest of dean redneck 11,190 Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 I heard this on the radio and it said use reward based training the dog doesn’t know what it’s being shocked for ,but surely they been used for good effect on dogs that try an worry livestock? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 f**k sake, suppose attempting to foot your twat of a terrier in the arse will be the next thing they try banning.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 25,291 Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 13 hours ago, scothunter said: I was given one that vibrates and the other setting is a high pitched whistle. Never used it or needed it but some wee scrote taxed it from a shop and gave it to me lol If anyone has need for it let me know you can have it. My misses used to sell something simular when she was an Ann summers rep ? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,639 Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) It's lobbied by these modern 'canine behaviourists' that run training classes and f**k about playing flyball and agility. They think because they can train a dog to fetch a f***ing tennis ball in a sterile barn environment that "you should only use positive reinforcement" is somehow applicable to high drive proper working dogs. Fair enough, in a lot of cases a talented and experienced handler shouldn't and wont need one. They know how to enter a dog and how to avoid pitfalls that lead to unwanted behaviour. But how many dogs get wasted on the road to that level? I'm a shit dog handler by my own opinion & admission, I'll never win a trial and I have no great desire too. I just want to work and hunt dogs. People don't like these e-collars because they are a form of positive punishment and the narrative states that "that is bad"..... yet we punish our dogs negatively and positively all the time through many other forms of stimuli without even registering it. A collar just allows greater reach and instant timing. Plenty of folks are using them as a negative reinforcement aid too. Using the electric stimulus as an irritant which when removed reinforces a desired behaviour. IMO it's one step closer to the goal of the working of dogs being unjustifiable and illegal. Edited March 12, 2018 by Born Hunter 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
terryd 8,049 Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 Bunch of do gooders sticking there oar in. Loads of dogs will be dumped and given up or just have a dam good kicking when they are hanging off a sheep thanks to the do gooders. If your intention is to be cruel you can use the end of your foot if your inclined that way. Best do this if you want to keep them https://consult.defra.gov.uk/animal-health-and-welfare/ban-on-electronic-training-collars-cats-and-dogs/ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
terryd 8,049 Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 (edited) On the news now some doing gooding idot trying to ban smacking kids. So you can't electrocute your dog you cant clout your kids and to top if off they want to pick up black bags every 4 weeks Edited March 14, 2018 by terryd 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forest of dean redneck 11,190 Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, terryd said: On the news now some doing gooding idot trying to ban smacking kids. So you can't electrocute your dog you cant clout your kids and to top if off they want to pick up black bags every 4 weeks When I had my first kid it was same as me when I was little told once smack bum second time, in end he learnt only told once,now younger kids run bloody riot as they know you can’t do anything ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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