Mickey Finn 2,710 Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 On 12/15/2017 at 17:45, hollands hope said: That one was sighted last year , 10 miles from where i live but it returned to Germany were it was killed in a RTA , another 2 were sighted , one 10 miles from were i live and the other 20 miles away both died in RTA , its reckoned that within 5 years time wolfs will be breeding again in the Netherlands . I'm not endorsing breaking the law or anything. But you might be happier without wolves roaming around. I know we were. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KES2 171 Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 It seems from the original article that excepting beetles wasps and some butterflies, most extinctions occurred BC. Those surely are largely irrelevant being perhaps down to climate shift and early man/mega landscape change through natural process (e.g loss of ;Doggerland'). Its too convenient an argument for those ranged against shooting to quote many millenia of natural extinctions. If anything it is perhaps a lesson for those parts of the world where change is still possible to conserve a rich natural flora and fauna. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,639 Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 17 minutes ago, KES2 said: It seems from the original article that excepting beetles wasps and some butterflies, most extinctions occurred BC. Those surely are largely irrelevant being perhaps down to climate shift and early man/mega landscape change through natural process (e.g loss of ;Doggerland'). Its too convenient an argument for those ranged against shooting to quote many millenia of natural extinctions. If anything it is perhaps a lesson for those parts of the world where change is still possible to conserve a rich natural flora and fauna. The spread of Sapiens has a pretty strong correlation to large fauna extirpation. Sapiens shows up on a new land, all the big shit gets killed. Mammoths survived the end of the ice age in places where man had not yet colonised, then once man arrived they disappeared. Similar situation with Australia's large fauna. Don't ever let anyone tell you that our hunter-gatherer ancestors were some sort of environmental heroes in perfect balance with nature, LOL. Fact is nature doesn't like balance, not in the way most people think of it. It wasn't until we became intelligent enough as a species to study our impact on nature that we developed conservation, which of course was the brainchild of sportsmen. As you say, the impact of modern sportsmen on conservation is not the problem, far from it in most cases. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dave88 1,565 Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 Came across this article this morning....wankers https://www.google.co.uk/amp/metro.co.uk/2017/12/20/vandals-smash-115000000-year-old-dinosaur-footprint-hammer-7173161/amp/ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hollands hope 1,013 Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 On 20-12-2017 at 05:18, Mickey Finn said: I'm not endorsing breaking the law or anything. But you might be happier without wolves roaming around. I know we were. Don´t know about the wolves , but we could do with halve the population size , its a bit overcrowded just as we speak right now, but then again am a bit of an antisocial type ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,973 Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 19 minutes ago, hollands hope said: Don´t know about the wolves , but we could do with halve the population size , its a bit overcrowded just as we speak right now, but then again am a bit of an antisocial type ! It's coming! The big question is what will replace us as the dominant species and will it take Jesus Christ as it's lord and saviour? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hollands hope 1,013 Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 25 minutes ago, ChrisJones said: It's coming! The big question is what will replace us as the dominant species and will it take Jesus Christ as it's lord and saviour? 25 minutes ago, ChrisJones said: It's coming! The big question is what will replace us as the dominant species and will it take Jesus Christ as it's lord and saviour? Don´t know whats ahead of us Chris , but nature never invented the same blueprint again, it was always replaced by something more adapted to the environment it lived in , but we as a species changed our own environ ment , and not for the better i think. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Welsh_red 4,309 Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 55 minutes ago, hollands hope said: Don´t know whats ahead of us Chris , but nature never invented the same blueprint again, it was always replaced by something more adapted to the environment it lived in , but we as a species changed our own environ ment , and not for the better i think. Robots . Some idiot has already created a robot that can fire a pistol . It's only a matter of time before skyet takes over 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 23,835 Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 25 minutes ago, Welsh_red said: Robots . Some idiot has already created a robot that can fire a pistol . Not exactly a robot,but I just like watching it,small wonder it got 34 million views,watch Charlene at the end ... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Welsh_red 4,309 Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 20 minutes ago, mackem said: Not exactly a robot,but I just like watching it,small wonder it got 34 million views,watch Charlene at the end ... Oh my Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,261 Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 (edited) Its all swings and roundabouts, Collard doves spread from India and across Europe in the 30's and were unknown in the UK prior to the 50's now most think they were always here. Little Egrets are now common, cattle egrets, glossy Ibis and Cranes getting there and Bustards along with Spoonbills not far behind, seeing a Buzzard would have been a real red letter day as a kid and now hardly noted. Mind the pelican was a bit of a turn up. Edited December 21, 2017 by sandymere 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forest of dean redneck 11,191 Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 Where was that sandy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,261 Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, forest of dean redneck said: Where was that sandy Pelican on the river Taw near Braunton Burrows, it had been in Cornwall for a while before. The Ibis are in various places in the west, that one was on Fremington Pill, the Spoon bills again around the south west in the winter, those are on Isley Marsh. http://www.northdevongazette.co.uk/news/pictures-rare-pelican-photographed-at-braunton-marshes-1-4721205 https://www.bbrc.org.uk/514 http://www.rarebirdalert.co.uk/RealData/Spoonbills_breed_in_Norfolk.asp 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neil cooney 10,415 Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 I thought England always had a few Spoonbills ? A few years ago there was a Barred Kingfisher seen on the Irish west coast that must have been blown from North America on the gulf stream (it's not that uncommon for American species to be around Ireland's west coast) and it was in the national papers. Myself and the wife stayed in Mayo for a few days shortly after and I got talking to a local in a pub one night and the conversation was about shooting and wildlife etc. and he mentioned the American kingfisher. He told me that there was over 100 bird watchers with their cameras , binoculars and notebooks lining the side of the road hoping for a glimpse of the bird. Then he mentioned that they were wasting their time and would never see the bird. I asked him how did he know they'd never see the bird ? "Because it's in my freezer" he told me. 1 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 25,295 Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 On 4 December 2017 at 12:34, peterhunter86 said: That looks a monster. Just put the telly on and the film African queen 1951 is on channel 5, which is were it all started, allegedly, 70 years to go from exotic rarity to nuisance, pretty good going for an invader 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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