Nik_B 3,790 Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 I have terrible Internet here but search for the movie 'Clinton cash'. It was made by someone who is reputable and if it was a total lie the Clinton's would be suing for libel. Their foundation has received 2 billion of foreign donations to get the Clinton's to lobby for business interests in 3rd world countries. It's estimated the cost of corruption to the USA is huge. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VOON 1,313 Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 Trump is a born and bred liar.......asking Russian hackers to hack a United States citizens emails, and then says he was joking.....and Ye want to put him in charge of nukes.....unreal..... But he didn't do that did he. Clinton's illegal email server was already hacked by a Romanian hacker called Gucifer. What he did say was that he thought the Russians already have the 30k missing emails (which they do) and that it would be interesting if they released them. He is an expert troll because by doing that forced the Democrats to talk about these emails ..up to now they have denied there are any missing emails and now by getting angry with him about it they've basically admitted they exist and probably contain secret information. They walked right in to the trap he set. No trap.....just conspiracy theorists saying it was a trap after the fact..... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Silversnake 1,099 Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 (edited) He's a numpty, who changes his views to court public opinion. To be president of the United States, you need beliefs and courage in your convictions, he has neither. His speeches are boring diatribe's, with a colourful rant that gains him publicity. I don't see how anything you have said makes him any worse than any of the other candidates. They are worse numpties IMO and at least he is a big step away from the established, corrupt criminals who are dragging the country into the sewer.That remains to be seen..... The president of the United States should not be basing his ideologies and programme for government on fear, divisiveness and building walls, He/she is the president of the world and Trump hasn't got the tact for that, Putin is rubbing his hands with glee at the thoughts of Trump being Pressie..... We wouldn't have seen eye to eye with Maggie Thatcher, but you knew what she stood for.? Still nothing you say convinces me that Trump is worse than the other candidates. Do you seriously believe clinton(s), bush, obama, etc don't base their ideologies and programs for government on fear and divisiveness? To add to these crimes against their own people, they commit worse atrocities around the world where it suits their 'business interests' and all funded by tax payers and justified with lies. I don't particularly like Trump but he is miles ahead of my second choice. Edited July 31, 2016 by Silversnake 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 Trump is a born and bred liar.......asking Russian hackers to hack a United States citizens emails, and then says he was joking.....and Ye want to put him in charge of nukes.....unreal.....But he didn't do that did he. Clinton's illegal email server was already hacked by a Romanian hacker called Gucifer. What he did say was that he thought the Russians already have the 30k missing emails (which they do) and that it would be interesting if they released them. He is an expert troll because by doing that forced the Democrats to talk about these emails..up to now they have denied there are any missing emails and now by getting angry with him about it they've basically admitted they exist and probably contain secret information. They walked right in to the trap he set. No trap.....just conspiracy theorists saying it was a trap after the fact..... Her emails were already hacked. That's a fact Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,334 Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 Watch the media machine get into full swing now, Trump will have to watch every sentence that comes out of his mouth. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
green lurchers 16,372 Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 good ole Hillary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
green lurchers 16,372 Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 I have terrible Internet here but search for the movie 'Clinton cash'. It was made by someone who is reputable and if it was a total lie the Clinton's would be suing for libel. Their foundation has received 2 billion of foreign donations to get the Clinton's to lobby for business interests in 3rd world countries. It's estimated the cost of corruption to the USA is huge. is it this one ? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,362 Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 Your right max all a bunch of coprat wankers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 I have terrible Internet here but search for the movie 'Clinton cash'. It was made by someone who is reputable and if it was a total lie the Clinton's would be suing for libel. Their foundation has received 2 billion of foreign donations to get the Clinton's to lobby for business interests in 3rd world countries. It's estimated the cost of corruption to the USA is huge. is it this one ? Yep I think so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
green lurchers 16,372 Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 a good one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VOON 1,313 Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 Trump is a born and bred liar.......asking Russian hackers to hack a United States citizens emails, and then says he was joking.....and Ye want to put him in charge of nukes.....unreal..... But he didn't do that did he. Clinton's illegal email server was already hacked by a Romanian hacker called Gucifer. What he did say was that he thought the Russians already have the 30k missing emails (which they do) and that it would be interesting if they released them. He is an expert troll because by doing that forced the Democrats to talk about these emails ..up to now they have denied there are any missing emails and now by getting angry with him about it they've basically admitted they exist and probably contain secret information. They walked right in to the trap he set. Yes he did.....he asked Russia, " if they were listening, to find the missing emails" and release them to the press....hack... He's a clown, who is only being lauded because he's playing the right wing card.....big change from 15 years ago.....his daughter comes across as a better speaker..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 Trump is a born and bred liar.......asking Russian hackers to hack a United States citizens emails, and then says he was joking.....and Ye want to put him in charge of nukes.....unreal..... But he didn't do that did he. Clinton's illegal email server was already hacked by a Romanian hacker called Gucifer. What he did say was that he thought the Russians already have the 30k missing emails (which they do) and that it would be interesting if they released them. He is an expert troll because by doing that forced the Democrats to talk about these emails ..up to now they have denied there are any missing emails and now by getting angry with him about it they've basically admitted they exist and probably contain secret information. They walked right in to the trap he set. Yes he did.....he asked Russia, " if they were listening, to find the missing emails" and release them to the press....hack... He's a clown, who is only being lauded because he's playing the right wing card.....big change from 15 years ago.....his daughter comes across as a better speaker..... Everyone knows the Russians have her emails. I'd be more concerned about a secretary of state that gets payoffs from the Saudi's and is so dishonest she needed a private email server to discuss state business...like over throwing gaddafi or supplying Islamists in Syria with weapons purchased from Al Qaeda in Libya. Anyway we have oposite views but could I ask your opinion on Farage? Do you also think him a buffoon? I seem the pair as very similar. It's an interesting debate and even more so because Trp is definitely going to win so we will get to see what he is like next year Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VOON 1,313 Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 Trump is a born and bred liar.......asking Russian hackers to hack a United States citizens emails, and then says he was joking.....and Ye want to put him in charge of nukes.....unreal..... But he didn't do that did he. Clinton's illegal email server was already hacked by a Romanian hacker called Gucifer. What he did say was that he thought the Russians already have the 30k missing emails (which they do) and that it would be interesting if they released them. He is an expert troll because by doing that forced the Democrats to talk about these emails ..up to now they have denied there are any missing emails and now by getting angry with him about it they've basically admitted they exist and probably contain secret information. They walked right in to the trap he set. Yes he did.....he asked Russia, " if they were listening, to find the missing emails" and release them to the press....hack... He's a clown, who is only being lauded because he's playing the right wing card.....big change from 15 years ago.....his daughter comes across as a better speaker..... Everyone knows the Russians have her emails. I'd be more concerned about a secretary of state that gets payoffs from the Saudi's and is so dishonest she needed a private email server to discuss state business...like over throwing gaddafi or supplying Islamists in Syria with weapons purchased from Al Qaeda in Libya. Anyway we have oposite views but could I ask your opinion on Farage? Do you also think him a buffoon? I seem the pair as very similar. It's an interesting debate and even more so because Trp is definitely going to win so we will get to see what he is like next year Farage comes across as genuine.....Trump just riding on the coat tails of right-wingers....yep I think he will win....providing he can keep his mouth shut.....I'd say his PR people get a "black scour" every time he goes off script.... I'm going to see what's the odds on him being taken out...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Astanley 11,472 Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 If you accept the premise that they are all lying ,corrupt ,self serving ,contemptible parasites ,then the best we can hope for is someone with a vague sense of reality who will hopefully keep us from nuclear war .Trump would cause me more sleepless nights than the bitch . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 If you accept the premise that they are all lying ,corrupt ,self serving ,contemptible parasites ,then the best we can hope for is someone with a vague sense of reality who will hopefully keep us from nuclear war .Trump would cause me more sleepless nights than the bitch . I don't accept that premise. Farage gave up a career in trading. Trump is worth 9 billion and has little to gain financially..unlike people like Clinton and Blair etc who don't have money so have to rent themselves out for cash. The idea that Trump is remotely unstable is ludicrous he is a calculating person and I was no fan until I did my research and listened to him in interviews from decades back...he has not really changed his main opinions on the important stuff. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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