Trump For President?

[ChrisJones 7,973]

Where though, Chris?

 

I've heard it said before and I've not managed to find where.

 

https://www.truthorfiction.com/donald-trump-said-republicans-are-the-dumbest-group-of-voters/

 

"In the end, we couldn’t find any instances of Donald Trump saying that Republicans are the dumbest group of voters. We’re calling this rumor fiction."

 

Makes no odds to me, I'm not a particular fan of his.

 

 

Sorry mate, I've been driving around the gravel roads around here this morning. My youngest was out walking the dog, at first light, and he was being stalked by a mountain lion.

 

No harm done but orders are not walk around without me, and I've informed the rangers.

 

Let me clarify. That quote isn't Donald's that I know of, but it sums up the current Republican movement, factually. The fact that you're the only one that checked it speaks volumes when it comes to Mr Trump's legendary status among the THL faithful!

 

I can see his appeal with some, his pro-patriotism, anti-immigration rhetoric would make him quite the poster boy for the general talk forum but like with the stalwarts of the Brexit vote, he hasn't actually said how he's going to do what he promises. He wants to build a wall across the border with Mexico (7500 miles long, incidentally) and he's going deport all the muslims, etc, etc, etc... but he hasn't told anyone, at least publicly, how he will achieve these goals. The difference with Brexit, though, is that he won't have the option of resigning and leaving the mess for someone else to figure out. The irony of reading what's best for America, from a forum that told Mr Obama to mind his own f***ing business regarding the EU, is pretty good morning reading though!

 

Even if elected he still has to get these bold proposals through Congress, and the Senate. These are both currently controlled by the Republican party, which has members that are hostile to Trump. He does not have a magic wand, and a lot of his own party don't see him as a Republican, but as a loony! What surprises me is that despite this people are still following him, blindly. I'm not talking about protest votes, I'm talking about people who genuinely believe he's the messiah. They don't know how he's going to do it, but they're going to take him at his word that he has all the answers.

 

With the level of political corruption, globally, it still amazes me that people can look at any political candidate without a massive shot of skepticism. With the track record of the majority of politicians how can anyone vote based on promise, never mind a promise without even a hint of how you're going to keep it?

[Born Hunter 17,639]

f***ing hell mate, that's not what you want to have to deal with! That said, I'm envious that you get to live in such a wild place.

 

The UK have a nasty habit of looking across the pond and just thinking you're all batshit. There's a real lack of understanding of what's going on and what the culture is over there. I've found myself interested in US history and the Republican state/political system lately, particularly why the feck the yanks seem hell bent on ever greater authority considering their history and alleged core values. Anyway, I sympathise with your thoughts but for some reason Trump is resonating with the electorate and in the popularity contest that is modern politics does objectivity and rigorous policy have much to do with success? There seems to be a bit of a movement in the West, where folks are sick of the establishment and they're voting for anyone that resembles something a bit radical!

 

What do you think to Johnson, the LP's nominee?

 

PS, Glad to see you posting again. You've mentioned Brexit and it would have been good to hear your thoughts at the time. I think we probably would have different views on it but that's half the reason for having wanted to see your thoughts.

 

PPS Hows your little self sufficiency challenge going?

[ChrisJones 7,973]

f***ing hell mate, that's not what you want to have to deal with! That said, I'm envious that you get to live in such a wild place.

I wouldn't change where I live, for the world. It's got it's own little challenges though. This year we've had a major wildfire only a couple of miles from where I live. Combined with nearly record deer herds, and the subsequent rise in predator numbers. It means we've been getting a lot of mountain lion sightings as the fires have pushed all the animals down the mountain and into the valley (where we are.) This is the third time we've seen one and now all walking around will be done while we're carrying!

 

 

The UK have a nasty habit of looking across the pond and just thinking you're all batshit. There's a real lack of understanding of what's going on and what the culture is over there. I've found myself interested in US history and the Republican state/political system lately, particularly why the feck the yanks seem hell bent on ever greater authority considering their history and alleged core values. Anyway, I sympathise with your thoughts but for some reason Trump is resonating with the electorate and in the popularity contest that is modern politics does objectivity and rigorous policy have much to do with success? There seems to be a bit of a movement in the West, where folks are sick of the establishment and they're voting for anyone that resembles something a bit radical!

It's been the shift from "We The People..." to "Show Me The Money" anyone who thinks the war in the middle east is about freedom, and liberty, is delusional. It's about asset seizure. Namely oil and opium. You can't sell that to normal people without them living in constant fear, hence the threat from a third party foreign religion.

 

Trump is resonating with the electorate because he's an expert at publicity. If you look at how many people get sucked into reality television think of this as Celebrity Big Brother: White House Edition. Donald has learned the language of the 21st century. He doesn't use bullshit PoltiSpeak he uses Emoji and small easily digestible soundbites. That works for his followers. Not so much for people that want substance which is why we're having this conversation in the first place.

 

Does policy have anything to do with success? Apparently not but you'd think with four Bush administrations, two Clinton, and two Obama, with the possibility of another Clinton, the disdain with the ruling classes that people would demand change based on merit than change for the sake of it, or even simply rolling the dice. Past performance is no guarantee of future yield, but with 15 years of conflict and a global recession thrown in you'd think that change should be researched not Tweeted.

 

What do you think to Johnson, the LP's nominee?

I like him! But I figured you knew that already!

 

In the current system he doesn't have the coffers to make the waves he needs to.

 

PS, Glad to see you posting again. You've mentioned Brexit and it would have been good to hear your thoughts at the time. I think we probably would have different views on it but that's half the reason for having wanted to see your thoughts.

I had no internet for six months! We've had infrastructure problems, rather than a shift to move off the grid. Wildfires made a mess of the internet and telecom towers. I hit a deer with my Dodge, in March. It blew out both my front tires but nothing other than that, thankfully the Americans knew how to build quality vehicles in the 80's. I had to euthanize the deer, with the shotty, but I had no phone coverage. I had to walk home 15 miles in the snow. Not your average commute, I know, but victory loves preparedness!

 

Brexit. With the minimal coverage I got I couldn't find out what would actually happen either way. I've been out of the country too long and wasn't able to vote on it. Not that I would because my life is here now, and it's really none of my business in that respect. Staying in would have meant the status quo. Not acceptable, IMHO. Leaving means burning the bridge and walking away, but no one has said what happens next.

 

If the public were pissed enough at the EU then why has it taken a referendum to change? Why hasn't the public been pushing their representatives for a better deal? Why did it take so long for the British voter to get off their arses? Apathy? Is it because we don't trust politicians, god forbid? If so, like I said in the other post, why would you blindly follow the leavers on their word when they can't even say what they're going to do. Never mind how they're going to do it?

 

PPS Hows your little self sufficiency challenge going?

Not bad so far. Not much to report that's exciting. My meat intake has been trout from the local reservoirs, but the closest ones to me have been closed due to the fires. That's meant driving much further out for fish. Have to be careful as a couple of the further out lakes are contaminated with lead and mercury. Apparently non-toxic shot isn't American, and only for f***ing Commies!

[green lurchers 16,372]

a lot of it boils down to the lesser of two evils , Clinton is a conniving habitual liar which is well proven and documented , don just pisses folk off and offers folk a different angle of progress and plenty of folk like that , also who do you trust more don or Clinton with their finger over the nuclear button ?

[Nik_B 3,790]

a lot of it boils down to the lesser of two evils , Clinton is a conniving habitual liar which is well proven and documented , don just pisses folk off and offers folk a different angle of progress and plenty of folk like that , also who do you trust more don or Clinton with their finger over the nuclear button ?

Trump was against the Iraq war. He's against supplying weapons to Al Qaeda oh sorry the Free Syrian army ha ha, he thinks countries like saudi should do more to stop terrorism or the US will stop protecting them. I wasn't a Trump fan 7 months again I didn't know him but having listened to him and done my research I think he is probably quite honest and means what he says.

[Nik_B 3,790]

P.s yet Clinton is bought and paid for by the saudi's and bankers...it's a no brainer

[green lurchers 16,372]

if he don't win which I think he will ,usa gets more of the same with Clinton which is more dangerous in the long run

[stop.end 4,079]

P.s yet Clinton is bought and paid for by the saudi's and bankers...it's a no brainer

LOL..if any of you think trumps good or better than clinton yous are mad. Both are lying sociopaths/psycopaths... how do yous think old don got to open casinos in atlantic city?? A place rife with coruption..or how he got the teamsters on board in manhattan to poir concrete for trump tower... if yos want a snap shot of america in 5 years wtch the film idiocracy.. in fact much of america is like that now.

[green lurchers 16,372]

if you took don out the running what is America left with ? not exactly an angel is she , I woudnt trust that cnt to run a bath

[green lurchers 16,372]

lol Clinton will say anything to get a vote , trump will say what he means and looses votes theres a big picture there

Edited August 1, 2016 by green lurchers

[green lurchers 16,372]

anything for votes lol

[Nik_B 3,790]

 

P.s yet Clinton is bought and paid for by the saudi's and bankers...it's a no brainer

LOL..if any of you think trumps good or better than clinton yous are mad. Both are lying sociopaths/psycopaths... how do yous think old don got to open casinos in atlantic city?? A place rife with coruption..or how he got the teamsters on board in manhattan to poir concrete for trump tower... if yos want a snap shot of america in 5 years wtch the film idiocracy.. in fact much of america is like that now.

Would you prefer a corrupt lefties or rightie? The first wants to destroy your civilization though immigration, undermine Christianity, marriage and our society....like I say seems like a no brainer

[ChrisJones 7,973]

What about the candidates that aren't Clinton, and Trump?

[stop.end 4,079]

lol...what im saying is neither is worth a wxnk ... and what the fook does that tell you when these are the 2 candidates running for presidency! Clinton makes me sick trump makes me sick... be better if not one American showed up to vote I bet there still would be a winner...

[Silversnake 1,099]

What about the candidates that aren't Clinton, and Trump?

Well they will come third at best I would imagine... As I have said I am no Trump fan but I put him miles ahead of clinton. If nothing else he keeps the momentum going against political correctness and ridiculous levels of immigration which the world seems to finally be realising causes nothing but trouble. Other than that it is for the good people of the USA to deal with him keeping his promises.