Irish Staffs

[Carlovian 593]

 

I don't own him pete you know the lad tho . What would yous cross if you were to breed a lurcher lads

nice dog.... never seen a staff that colour before

 

 

 

You still haven't seen a Stafford that colour ,,it is a mixed breed ,,,Staffords don't come that colour ,,

[Dead Eyes 681]

 

 

I don't own him pete you know the lad tho . What would yous cross if you were to breed a lurcher lads

nice dog.... never seen a staff that colour before

Holy thread resurrection!

[BEARINATOR 2,928]

My bitch, 17kg fit but not a irish staff

[dogmandont 10,064]

When did the name Irish staff pop up and how long will it be to some man is selling his fells as Irish fells, Irish borders, English wheatens. Can someone explain the difference between an Irish staff and any other staff? Genuine question.

[BEARINATOR 2,928]

Irish staffs came from good quality Staffords from England that were then bred from for work only. That resulted in a strong line of working staffs with the likes of Geronimo. The EBT in psychos line came from North Star, both dam and sire were staff/EBT.

 

 

When did the name Irish staff pop up and how long will it be to some man is selling his fells as Irish fells, Irish borders, English wheatens. Can someone explain the difference between an Irish staff and any other staff? Genuine question.

General answered one question earlier in the thread

[dogmandont 10,064]

They are still just staffs. Do they differ in appearance are perform any different to staffs breed for work only in any other part of the would?

[Rat face 1,655]

I always thought that the Irish staffs was a bit more up on leg and a bit more athletic in build

 

But I could be completely wrong tho

[keepdiggin 9,566]

Use to love my bull breeds but after my American bulldog goes that's it for me

[ginger beard 4,654]

i thought ''irish staff'' was a name given to pit bulls to hoodwink the authorities.

[ginger beard 4,654]

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[rob284 1,682]

Is it not a staff bred in ireland. Would make sense.

[ginger beard 4,654]

Is it not a staff bred in ireland. Would make sense.

what like an english german sheppard or a scottish german shorthaired pointer.?

[neil cooney 10,417]

Up 'till a few years ago fanciers called their dogs by the line they came from and they were quiet local. Dublin had the Dublin Reds and Cork had the Geronimo dogs etc. etc. and that how dogs were described.

But less than 20 years ago a spate of books like Barkers etc. started calling them Irish Staffs and the puppy peddlers jumped on board. Some of these peddlers were around during the 80s when the trials were serious competition but these lads were no where to be seen.

But a few years down the road these lads were all the rave with their game dogs.

And the English bought the story of the Irish staff big time and the funny thing was that there was probably better staffs in England and Scotland but these boys kept their heads down and just got on with it.

[shaaark 11,814]

 

Is it not a staff bred in ireland. Would make sense.

what like an english german sheppard or a scottish german shorthaired pointer.?

 

Was just about to say that lol. Same could be said for most breeds of dog, bred in this country for generations, but originating in a completely different country lol, but the german shepherd analogy is the one that first came to mind

[neil cooney 10,417]

 

Up 'till a few years ago fanciers called their dogs by the line they came from and they were quiet local. Dublin had the Dublin Reds and Cork had the Geronimo dogs etc. etc. and that how dogs were described.

But less than 20 years ago a spate of books like Barkers etc. started calling them Irish Staffs and the puppy peddlers jumped on board. Some of these peddlers were around during the 80s when the trials were serious competition but these lads were no where to be seen.

But a few years down the road these lads were all the rave with their game dogs.

And the English bought the story of the Irish staff big time and the funny thing was that there was probably better staffs in England and Scotland but these boys kept their heads down and just got on with it.

Do ye know if many of them red dogs still about?

 

How many do you want, LOL.

I haven't had a strongdog for about 10 years (still love them though) and am away from them but I would think there's plenty of dogs with Dublin Red or Diddy Coy blood in them.

The man behind the Dublin Red dogs, Tony L, once told me that it was other lads who started calling them Dublin Reds whereas Tony used to register his dogs under the Diddy Coy prefix.

I was always told that most dogs in Dublin were red in the 70s and 80s until Tony got Psycho up from Cork for Ricky B. As you know Psycho was mostly white and Ricky made the dog and white dogs became common in Dublin.

Ricky sold Psycho to Northford kennels in Northern Ireland and soon the North had plenty of white dogs. It's probably the most predominant colour now in the breed.