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    Thanks for sharing the link to " Almost..." p3d. I found my way to this Irish working terrier club once via JRTCB web site and discovered Rawden Lees' Fox Terrier free to download. Both volumes. Books I had dreamed of owning when a kid and never got around to buying when they were reprinted. I particularly liked the stamp on one of the 1st pages, " this is the property of the New York Library " or something similar. I imagine a story on it's own to tell ? The write up on the Sealyham on your shared link is really interesting. The most fascinating being that one of the most influential or a
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    Thanks for sharing the link to " Almost..." p3d. I found my way to this Irish working terrier club once via JRTCB web site and discovered Rawden Lees' Fox Terrier free to download. Both volumes. Books I had dreamed of owning when a kid and never got around to buying when they were reprinted. I particularly liked the stamp on one of the 1st pages, " this is the property of the New York Library " or something similar. I imagine a story on it's own to tell ? The write up on the Sealyham on your shared link is really interesting. The most fascinating being that one of the most influential or a
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    You obviously have a computer Big Bill so why ask advice on this breed of terrier here rather than look up the massive amount of data that already exists ? I think we all know about the German Hunt Terrier. Product of the insane thinking in Germany in 1930's to claim everything that is strong and good as German and that the working terrier as an ancient Germanic type of dog rather than a relatively modern English type of dog. So they imported terriers white Fox terriers from England and with the use of an unlimited budget isolated the black and tan gene that the Fox Terrier still carried (
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    Shoulder too upright ? Hocks too low, stifle too straight or thighs too long ? Could he hunt ? What about his nose ? Can not judge from a photograph. I reckon he never got the opportunity to use it but I think he would have loved to be let loose on a scent. But I get your point. They must hunt or they are no longer what their old breed names define them as.
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    You obviously have a computer Big Bill so why ask advice on this breed of terrier here rather than look up the massive amount of data that already exists ? I think we all know about the German Hunt Terrier. Product of the insane thinking in Germany in 1930's to claim everything that is strong and good as German and that the working terrier as an ancient Germanic type of dog rather than a relatively modern English type of dog. So they imported terriers white Fox terriers from England and with the use of an unlimited budget isolated the black and tan gene that the Fox Terrier still carried (
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    You obviously have a computer Big Bill so why ask advice on this breed of terrier here rather than look up the massive amount of data that already exists ? I think we all know about the German Hunt Terrier. Product of the insane thinking in Germany in 1930's to claim everything that is strong and good as German and that the working terrier as an ancient Germanic type of dog rather than a relatively modern English type of dog. So they imported terriers white Fox terriers from England and with the use of an unlimited budget isolated the black and tan gene that the Fox Terrier still carried (
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    There used to be a slaughter house just to right of approach to Tyne Bridge Gateshead side. Sheep heads and green tripe there for the taking, just used to give the lads who worked there a couple of quid each week and take as much as you needed. Take it back to the yard, boil it, and the dogs had top quality feed and something to go at re pulling it to bits and crunching bones. The sheep heads were cut in half with a hack saw after boiling. Long gone now so a bit pointless me posting this I suppose but....happy days !
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    Unless it is closely bred to Smithy or the Reverend John Russell's Trump a terrier will not go to ground.
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    Smashing looking terriers andy26, thank you for going the trouble of posting the pics. There were dogs of this type around when I was younger. Not that long ago, well late 1970's early 80's which is a long time ago I suppose, but not as far back as people may think regarding the Sealyham type as a working terrier. They were not very popular though even when I first started getting interested in hunting dogs and Border/Lakeland types and Russells were the norm. But the Sealyham type was still around. Short legged heavy built dogs are more suited to working a particular kind of undergrou
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    Done
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    This may be off the original thread but I think it has some relevance to the topic. A couple of years ago a working terrier show was held within walking distance of my house. Unfortunately in an urban area, unfortunately for me because that's where I live at present, but that's my problem. The venue was on the edge of a small industrial estate with entries taken in one of the units and the show ground being an adjoining bit of waste ground. All the usual classes and working types were catered for. However, as the show was in an urban area and had been well advertised, with all profits going t
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    Parson Russell Terrier ? Parson type, yes. K.C. registered ? Nice stamp.
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    I agree but it's not quite than simple I.M.O.. The Parson Russell Terrier is a K.C. registered breed of dog. If you manage to find a line from a breeder who still works them then it must be K.C. registered to be an " official " Parson Russell. And you propably pay at least £ 450. And it will most likely have a full tail. However, the K.C. registration of " Parsons " was as in 1988 ( I think ). There are still lots of that type around from stock that didn't go for the fame/money/social standing and are of a " Parson " type. As opposed to short legged Sealyham type white woeking terriers or
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    A living Art Deco sculpture. Developed for people who require a smaller dog than a Borzio and have no desire to catch wolves. Very nice looking designer dogs.
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    Considering how long the interest in the name " Smithfield " has been going on, I'm amazed that the " breed" has not been saved from extinction using stock that a few dedicated people managed to find, and then accepted by the K.C., can be purchased for a mere £800 a pup. In my opinion it's the function of the dog that is the answer to the question. Drovers needed a dog to assist them in their work. Any "breed" would do, as long as it could do the work. Most suitable dogs for this type of work were bred together and produced the " Smithfield ". The work of the Drover came to an end. The d
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    Well seeing as though I said what's the fastest lurcher anybody has seen I think it's pretty clear to see Greyhounds are not included.... Yes you did, but the fastest at doing what ? Shitting.... What do you think?? Haha. Ok, wont twist on 21, your cards not mine .Good post. Fasted lurcher I've seen was a Whippet/Greyhound. 21 inch high approx. 36 lb. Given to me because he was too slow. Litter wastage .A bitch sized dog. Bred for track. 1984. Caught hares on grass, stubble, winter wheat and beat bigger better dogs on that ground. Plough ? He was out of the game after 1st few turns agai
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    Well seeing as though I said what's the fastest lurcher anybody has seen I think it's pretty clear to see Greyhounds are not included.... Yes you did, but the fastest at doing what ?
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    As much as I'm enjoying this post I do think it's a bit of a daft question. No disrespect intended DogFox123, and to be fair the question was what's the fastest you've " seen " and not what is the fastest " type". I think the question is a bit mischievous ? No one adds the blood of dogs slower than pure Greyhounds or Whippets to increase top speed achievable. A Formula 1 car is a faster vehicle than a quad bike. What's the fastest quad bike ?
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    Calm down bonny lad, Josh. There is nothing wrong with having 4 dogs and trying to start your own pack. My point was that if you're just starting out with dogs then it would better to try and bring on just 1 dog first. Make mistakes, as we all do, and progress. Then add more to the team. You have an advantage over me. I grew up with working dogs but I was without them for some years, now trying to get back into it. Only got 1 dog now but hoping to add 1 more this year. The advantage you have over me is your age and time available to spend with your pack. Enjoy what you have and keep an open mi
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    Some really nice pics on this post and some great looking working types. Unfortunately I want to drag it back to the fairy10 thing. If he is genuine then he hasn't gained much from this community. Josh, if that's your real name, there is no easy fix. If you already have 4 terriers then I would say this is not ideal when you are just starting out, too many. However, they're your dogs now and you must do your best for them. 2 black dogs that aren't very game ? How would you know that ? It's that sort of thing that have raised people's suspicions. Learn the present laws regarding hunting wit
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    I still ask the question, why is there no such thing as a Boar Hound ? Since the times when hunting became as much for sport rather than as a need to catch something to eat I think the wild boar, along with deer, was the most important and most hunted animal. There was one developed in the area that became Germany. Now known as the Great Dane but came from hounds/mastiffs developed in Germany as a boar hound. The dogs we have now going by that name are different of course, having been bred for size only and not ability to hunt boar. But they were developed for that task by people who had
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    Any where and in any country of the world, in my opion. Welsh or English Fox hounds will find, hunt and bring to bay any animal. Maybe not close and hold by force. So cross Bulldog or modern show blood in ? No. Better stay with hounds and be selective with the stallions put to gamest bitches. Then you have Boar Hounds.
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    This is very interestng. I'd never heard or read about this type before. I'm a little bit envious that people have access to game and land enough to be able to develop a new " breed " to perform a task that has been done since records began. What is it with boar hounds ? Our friends in USA and South America have developed " new " breeds. In Australia there seem to be fine dogs that are a mix of mostly European breeds that aren't really still regarded as hunting dogs in their country of origin. Why is there not such a thing as The Boar Hound ?
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    Thanks for the input. I used to be of the opinion that I wouldn't keep a dog or bitch the isn't worth breeding from. However this was in the past when the dogs had a chance to prove themselves. The terrier I have at present hasn't really had that chance. He's done a little bit but no where near enough to make a proper judgement. So castration should not be a problem, but it still goes against the grain to render a relatively young dog incapable of passing on the genes. I'm hoping the availability of work situation may change. Kennelling the present dog and doing the same with the new bitch
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    Hello everyone, I'm new here. Have been reading as a guest for a few months but just signed up because I'm looking for some advice from some one who may have practical knowledge. I probably shouldn't have put it on the terrier section, regarding sensible advise, but terriers are where I'm from and where I am I used to keep dogs that I worked, and could justify every aspect of that. Now I have one dog. A Russell type. He lives inside and does not get much work. I would like to get another terrier, that may also be wasted as a working dog, to keep him 'company' . So most people on here w
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