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"It is a good deed to forget a poor joke" (Brendan Behan)
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Robust healthy looking animals. Not comments that can be made on many mastiff/bull types around these days. If they have stable temperaments then you can be justifiably proud. The 1st one that I saw in the flesh was actually in Tenerife on a stag do many years ago. I left the place where I was having a liquid breakfast and crossed the road to try and have a bit of craic with the chap who was walking it. He did not, or would not speak English and was having none of it. Maybe not helped by the lads that I with, none of whom were dog men and never understood my obsession with all things cani
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I can only echo what other people have said as to how enjoyable this thread has been. There is a definite need for someone to record the knowledge that just about still exists but may soon be lost. The dreaded books, a cause for much argument and scorn as to the credentials of the person writing them and the people featured. I get that, but we still all read. The people reading this do anyway. Not a how to do this or how to train a dog to do that. More in the style of Lucas' Hunt and Working Terriers perhaps? The only terrier book that I read as a young man but have found myself returning
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It is a definite "thing". A genetic thing, obviously. Something to do with the gene that produces pigment in an animal is the same gene, or is intrinsically linked, to the gene that develops hearing. Lack of pigment could = lack of hearing. A piss poor explanation I know but not something that I have ever had the need to become more educated in. The only working bred deaf dog that I have known was a white dog born from black and tan working type Lakelands. Never came across it in Jack Russells or whippets.
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Has now been identified as Buck, a Bluetick Coonhound entered into the Kentucky man/dog hide and seek championship finals in 1978. The organisers are still trying to locate his owner to award the 1st prize.
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I think that he ghost wrote 2. at least. Depending on who your God is. Nowt wrong with a person being interested in the natural history of an animal. Nowt wrong at all.
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I blame the family. They have been filling me glass up with Jameson's for the last 4 days. No doubt in the hope that I will fall asleep and shut the f##k up. Happy "holidays".
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I think that many terries that cost a pretty penny.. sent.across the water and sold to people who should of known better...waited too late for the official stamp. Played a bad hand. Gripton's dog's are in their blood but they cannot be honest about it. The show shite. But it is in there. The real Jack Russell that he had? Do they still exist? Well there are still terriers of a white colour working that may be of his blood... but why would it matter? Where did Bert Gripton get his terriers from?
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Strange to see the obvious Fox Terrier cross being shown, but I suppose that's show BUSINESS. Regarding Drabble being a critic of terrier work I don't think he did too much damage as it had already been done by ' men' with terriers. There are different periods in history (and I can only comment on England) that were regarded as the Golden Years of terrier work. Well, the 1980's can certainly be regarded as the darkest days of terrier work. Certain people with terriers who were a gift from God to the antis. A time when unemployment and crime was rife. The police did not have the resou
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favourite type of working terrier and why?
eastcoast replied to Lenmcharristar's topic in Earthdogs & Working Terriers
For me it is the Jack Russell terrier. I have always been of he opinion that working terriers are a rather unique type of dog. Small in size (from necessity) but never stature. Hunt like hounds but game . As unique as all working bred terriers are I find the Jack Russell the most enigmatic. What exactly are they? What defines them?. Well that's easy now, if they are not recognised by the KC as a Parson or a Jack Russell then they are just mongrels. I can live with that. The Jack Russells themselves don't really give a shit. -
A similar thing almost happened to a heating engineer that I once new. He got off on a technicality though as he was Corgi Registered.
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Fair comment. Merry Christmas Mr. Cooney, in fact to all on THL. People may disagree (which often makes for entertaining reading :-) ), but at the end of the day we are all on the same side. It's us and them and I'm glad that I'm not on of them. All the best.
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Wolf Hounds by function I would think. Not judged in a show ring on a points system using a breed standard written by the wrong people who wanted to keep a closed gene pool for the wrong reasons. Form follows function, always has and always will. Nice wolf hounds in Ted Newgent's photos. But I must add that I've never seen a wolf (or any wild canine bigger than a fox), so this is purely my personal opinion based on jack.
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The chap in the photo also appears to be wearing some sort of training shoe and I can't see a spade. Do we know for sure that he did not have a decent pair of boots back at home and some digging tools in his shed?
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That dog has some quality to it, tremendous quality if it's a bitch. A show dog or a working terrier being shown? As it was the 1980's at least there is a chance that it is the latter rather than the former.
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Difficult to tell on me phone but could be gorse bushes?
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I used to take the occasional rabbit with this years ago. It was a very task specific tool though . Only used at a particular location that was semi-derelict industrial land. In parts heavily overgrown with thick gorse and bramble but with a very healthy rabbit population. An ideal place to let the dogs run off a bit steam.. All the planets had to be in alignment when a rabbit hoped out of cover. Most importantly I needed to be 100% sure of the location of the dogs so that there was no danger of them running in. Usually the rabbit that showed would not be the one that the dogs were huntin
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The very fact that this discussion is going on proves what a unique animal the working terrier is. Would the price of a working (and potential breeding) lurcher or coursing hound, or a gun dog, cause so much discussion or disagreement ? I don't think so. If a person has a line of terriers and a close knit group of like minded people who keep them going, well that is working terrier Nirvana. Would those line of terriers exist if money had not changed hands at some point over the years ? No. The best of men and the worst of men have bought and sold dogs, the worst tend to do it more of
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A Bedlington Whippet cross would be a better dog for him in my opinion. A Bedlington, as most terriers, can make a very useful ferreting dog. But they are not quick enough to catch rabbits. I'm just thinking ahead that if the lad brings a terrier on as a rabbit dog then realises that it is lacking physically, then it may install the swap and change mentality or disillusion him.. A Beddy x Whippet or pure (does not have to be KC), would be a great dog for a young lad with an inclination to get out and about after rabbits.
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FTCh Russ Le-Poseur
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Pure bred as we are led to believe. As you probably are aware of lots of previously rare Bull types became available during the 1980's 90's. Fair play to the man who bred him though, he was in it for the money, but wanted us to have this one and gave it free of charge. Did not live to a great age though. Not a healthy breed.
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Dropped a bollock, had intended to share these pics, not the 1st one 3 times
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This chap was by no means a purpose bred or trained modern Ninja/SAS type ultimate fool safe answer. He was a much loved member of the family .However, it would of taken a very brave/stupid or determined man to take that which he chose to protect. Luckily he was never found himself in the situation to prove himself...as far as I'm aware.
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Even thought trimming a dog's nails is a simple procedure, providing that the animal is calm and accommodating, extreme care should still be taken. Most particularly with dark pigmentation when the quick may not be easily determined. A simple procedure done the wrong way would cause serious pain and injury. Err on the side of caution if you're not 100% sure how far to take them back. The need to trim could well be a result of a badly constructed foot rather than lack of exercise or the terrain that it walked on. A splayed "hare" foot. Used to be common in the old ugly Queen Anne legged Rus
