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£25 ? I saw one of these that on the day was shown as a Jack Russell and took best in show changing hands for £1000. My weekly wage at the time doing a semi-skilled job was less than £100.
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I know that most of the people on here will be aware of this but the question has been asked. A well known strain of working type Lakeland carries white genes going back to Fox Terrier/Russell blood being added a hundred year ago. The white coloured throwbacks because of this gained quite a following in the 1980's. Physically they tend to be classier than the typical Russell and were very successful at "working" terrier shows. Some even became foundation stock for the KC Parson Russell. Some honestly and well documented, a lot more probably not. So yes, there is such a thing as a white Lakelan
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Does this count? Borzoi/Irish Setter base lines with a dash of collie and been breeding true to type for years. It's ok... I've already got me coat on. Off to the pub.
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I have read this and what a negative miserable old b*****d I have became. What has a love of hunting and dogs given me? Rather a lot. I have spent many hours in locations that truly are the most beautiful places on this planet. There have been times, most particularly on the high ground, that I have found myself in need of taking a moment to sit down and appreciate it all.
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Believe it. England has changed so much in the last 40 years that is not so much a different country as on a different planet compared to how it was. We could use public transport with terriers. Tools and all. We could walk back into the estate we lived on carrying gutted rabbits and hares after catching them on the remnants of the surrounding farmland. . No one took offence at this. The first time that I was abruptly made aware of the change in attitude towards the things that I loved to do with those that don't was when a girl spat in my face. Ferrets down, nets in place, two
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The legendary Norfolk lurcher? Only joking, cracking photograph.
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I agree 100%.
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In response to the original statement of the thread, assuming it is an observation made in the UK, the only quarry we can allow a dog to hunt, catch and kill are rats and rabbits. So no need for the blood of large Celtic dogs, noble desert hounds or a drop of the hard. In theory anyway.
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Mine was a .22 Diana air rifle. Don't remember the model number but something like 24 rings a bell. Very basic junior rifle. Dark stained and varnished wood stock. Low power. Non-adjustable single stage trigger with pressed steel trigger blade. Metalwork not blued as I discovered after applying a "rust proofing" compound to it which removed the "bluing". A rifled barrel though and the trigger was predictable. In retrospect surprisingly accurate. A Christmas present when I was 8. I will never forget the feeling after Midnight Mass when my dad brought it out, wrapped in paper! The feeling
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Fantastic photo that!
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There is a very nice head study photograph of a Fox Terrier from Austria in this month's EDRD. I say nice, but, it's a modern show type. I've owned whippets with stronger heads. Yet this terrier is being grafted on strong quarry. It fascinates me that this type of terrier, with all the physical structural weaknesses that are 100% a product of show breeding, are worked around in various locations around he world. So ironic.
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I have posted these before but maybe of interest on this thread. The photo with the people is my favourite family picture simply because there is an old type Bedlington in it. My Great uncle and aunty. He was a pitman and the pic would of been taken 1950's (I think) in the Team Valley area of Gateshead NE England. Poor quality I know as I only have it in photocopied form. Other photographs exist of this man's Bedlingtons but are in the possession of my cousin and I been trying to get them off him for 20 odd years. I will not relent and they will be mine eventually. The pic of the 3 d
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And made old bones. As they all should of course in the 21st century. But a dog of that type with age has an added air about it.
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I had a mate who served in the Royal Marines at that time. He told me that they had a joke/saying prior to the Falkland War: What’s the most dangerous man in the world? A sailor with a rifle. Post Falkland: Whats the most dangerous man in the world? An officer with a map.
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Yes I was being a little sarcastic, once again proving that it really is the lowest form of wit. Looking at the ratting threads on here and the photographs posted on them it would seem the Plummer is indeed a terrier capable of regularly killing rats in large numbers. Those lads appear to be doing great work with breed. The little Westie is the star of the show for me though. Very nice to see a "pet" breed given the chance to resurrect it's working instinct.
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I once heard that a man started out with old school Russells, added a bit of Beagle and a dash of Stafford, a smidgen of Fell and a soupcon of Fox Terrier to create the best ratting terriers. No idea how it all worked out in the end.
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I admire your resolve. Your dogged determination to drive your point home. The spirit of the old Bedlignton.
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The little racing dog and the little fighting dog have a long history but the type, as we know it, was fixed by the working class English in the 19th/early 20th century. Very different types of dog. Both performance bred. Lived and were bred side by side.Many physical similarities though. Same coat. Same colours. Same ear carriage. Both extremely easy to get fit compared to some breeds. Obviously there is bull in the whippet but could it have gone both ways? In the days before game lines became "sacred".
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The lad was never saying that his intension is to breed 100% working Bedlington Terries. And sell them. As far as I can tell he just has a Bedlington bitch that is fit for his purpose and regards the animal as worth breeding from. For his purpose. The problem comes from people who lie about what they have done. what their terriers have done, and then try to pass them off as something that they are not. And then sell them.
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Credit to the lad who started the thread for being honest. Seems like he's using terriers for ratting and rabbiting and looking for a stud dog with nose, drive and a healthy constitution. Not making do with one of the many show/pet Bedlingtons available at public stud on the pets4homes type sites that are a sorry excuse for a terrier. Any work is better than no work.
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I like the look of this terrier. Reminiscent of types that were fairly common when I was growing up. Usually called Border/Lakelands. But it was never meant to imply that they were a cross between a Border terrier and a Lakeland terrier. A Border/Lakeland bitch would be lined by a Border/Lakeland dog and the pups would still be known as Border/Lakeland. And so forth. I don't think that I ever saw what I would describe now as a Lakeland or a Border terrier until I went to a terrier show. And well impressed I was, those dogs had so much more quality than the Border/Lakeland. Or so I thought at
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Another of mine. Long gone. The dog not the drawing obviously.
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I knew that I had seen this image before. From a photograph? My only reference is page 126 of "The English Whippet". But no certification is given to the photographer. Once again though, a well drawn whippet.
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Not only is that dog instantly recognisably as a whippet, it could only have been drawn by a person who knows whippets!
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Yes!
