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Yes I was being a little sarcastic, once again proving that it really is the lowest form of wit. Looking at the ratting threads on here and the photographs posted on them it would seem the Plummer is indeed a terrier capable of regularly killing rats in large numbers. Those lads appear to be doing great work with breed. The little Westie is the star of the show for me though. Very nice to see a "pet" breed given the chance to resurrect it's working instinct.
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I once heard that a man started out with old school Russells, added a bit of Beagle and a dash of Stafford, a smidgen of Fell and a soupcon of Fox Terrier to create the best ratting terriers. No idea how it all worked out in the end.
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I admire your resolve. Your dogged determination to drive your point home. The spirit of the old Bedlignton.
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The little racing dog and the little fighting dog have a long history but the type, as we know it, was fixed by the working class English in the 19th/early 20th century. Very different types of dog. Both performance bred. Lived and were bred side by side.Many physical similarities though. Same coat. Same colours. Same ear carriage. Both extremely easy to get fit compared to some breeds. Obviously there is bull in the whippet but could it have gone both ways? In the days before game lines became "sacred".
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The lad was never saying that his intension is to breed 100% working Bedlington Terries. And sell them. As far as I can tell he just has a Bedlington bitch that is fit for his purpose and regards the animal as worth breeding from. For his purpose. The problem comes from people who lie about what they have done. what their terriers have done, and then try to pass them off as something that they are not. And then sell them.
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Credit to the lad who started the thread for being honest. Seems like he's using terriers for ratting and rabbiting and looking for a stud dog with nose, drive and a healthy constitution. Not making do with one of the many show/pet Bedlingtons available at public stud on the pets4homes type sites that are a sorry excuse for a terrier. Any work is better than no work.
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I like the look of this terrier. Reminiscent of types that were fairly common when I was growing up. Usually called Border/Lakelands. But it was never meant to imply that they were a cross between a Border terrier and a Lakeland terrier. A Border/Lakeland bitch would be lined by a Border/Lakeland dog and the pups would still be known as Border/Lakeland. And so forth. I don't think that I ever saw what I would describe now as a Lakeland or a Border terrier until I went to a terrier show. And well impressed I was, those dogs had so much more quality than the Border/Lakeland. Or so I thought at
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Another of mine. Long gone. The dog not the drawing obviously.
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I knew that I had seen this image before. From a photograph? My only reference is page 126 of "The English Whippet". But no certification is given to the photographer. Once again though, a well drawn whippet.
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Not only is that dog instantly recognisably as a whippet, it could only have been drawn by a person who knows whippets!
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Yes!
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I don't know if this exists and I can't find it on THL or if has been done before and was not popular. But the idea of this thread is for people to submit their own art, drawn or painted by the individual rather than purchased. A few days ago I saw a very nice drawing in the Lurcher section but I forgot exactly where and now cannot find it. Maybe there could be a place where our own art could be placed? Not for critique or ego, merely to share. I have know a few people who have drawn and painted yet keep it to themselves as a kind of dirty secret. Not sure why. I have always loved a
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A handsome looking dog and an interesting mix. Seems to be well thought of too by those who have seen him in the flesh. Good thread.
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I was trying to work out his breeding by studying the photo. I got the deerhound bit right ?
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I like the edge protection/guiderail on the ramp. Nice to see working type terriers getting well cared for. Sometimes the devil's in the detail. Cracking looking pups. Hope they all get well deserving homes.
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when experienced terrier lads pass away.
eastcoast replied to stonewall's topic in Earthdogs & Working Terriers
I truly wish that the greatest threat to the continuation of terrier work, or any hunting in the UK and Ireland was individual men dying. People die, always have and always will. An irrelevance. But I do get your point, just don't regard it as a problem.. -
There was a time when a visit to the local Cat n Dog shelter could prove fruitful. I witnessed a period when the favourite type of pet dog changed from little white dogs to little red dogs. There used to be loads of good quality red Lakeland types being bred and lots ended up needing rehoming as they were not ideally suited to a sedate family pet existence. Most were well bred or only a generation or so removed from good breeding. Seen a few bought for a song from animal sanctuaries that made proper grafters. There was also a time when a football manager could shout down a pit shaft and end up
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Wise words WLF. You may not of had great formal education but seem not to have grown up a fool. I would add the lads who never made it out of their teens or twenties by drugs, "joy ridding", jail (gaol, I am educated now), or taking the Queen's shilling., etc. Suicide also. How important are a person's school days? Many factors need to be considered. Nature or nurture? Every man, woman and dog are different. It is the job of the fortunate to look out for the unfortunate, and this can take many forms. Excuse my ramblings, I just liked your post.
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Bliase, you have asked a question on THL and not had much response. I find that a shame as many of us, myself included, have asked questions of yourself and have been given prompt and considered replies. I am by no means the best person to answer your question but will give my opinion. If you were a person from the continent with no experience of the working terrier then it would be a relatively simple question to answer, but you have the real working terrier. Your thread on THL confirms this. The Continent for this purpose being the land mass of Europe not including England, Ireland (No
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"I'm not singing for the future, I'm not dreaming of the past, I'm not talking of the 1st time, I never think about the last"
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Everything is objective and we all have our own opinions but I can state 100% that the prettiest, straightest shooting and best engineered air rifle for shooting daytime rabbits in God's Own Country (Northumberland ) is an AA Pro Sport with a walnut stock in .177 calibre.
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"It is a good deed to forget a poor joke" (Brendan Behan)
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Robust healthy looking animals. Not comments that can be made on many mastiff/bull types around these days. If they have stable temperaments then you can be justifiably proud. The 1st one that I saw in the flesh was actually in Tenerife on a stag do many years ago. I left the place where I was having a liquid breakfast and crossed the road to try and have a bit of craic with the chap who was walking it. He did not, or would not speak English and was having none of it. Maybe not helped by the lads that I with, none of whom were dog men and never understood my obsession with all things cani
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I can only echo what other people have said as to how enjoyable this thread has been. There is a definite need for someone to record the knowledge that just about still exists but may soon be lost. The dreaded books, a cause for much argument and scorn as to the credentials of the person writing them and the people featured. I get that, but we still all read. The people reading this do anyway. Not a how to do this or how to train a dog to do that. More in the style of Lucas' Hunt and Working Terriers perhaps? The only terrier book that I read as a young man but have found myself returning
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It is a definite "thing". A genetic thing, obviously. Something to do with the gene that produces pigment in an animal is the same gene, or is intrinsically linked, to the gene that develops hearing. Lack of pigment could = lack of hearing. A piss poor explanation I know but not something that I have ever had the need to become more educated in. The only working bred deaf dog that I have known was a white dog born from black and tan working type Lakelands. Never came across it in Jack Russells or whippets.
