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.17 HMR Fox- heart or heart shot? Plus ammo.
Alsone replied to Billy_boy_2010's topic in Rimfire, Centrefire & Shotguns
In fairness the .204 did have some initial problems with the 30gr (?) ammunition. However, it never affected the heavier bullets and I haven't heard of any reports of splash even from the lighter rounds for some time now. I'd have to say that initial issues apart, it's a fine round and probably the most destructive of any of the .22 centrefires although I've opened a can of worms there. Certainly stick to 35gr and above and you should see no issues. -
.17 HMR Fox- heart or heart shot? Plus ammo.
Alsone replied to Billy_boy_2010's topic in Rimfire, Centrefire & Shotguns
At the correct range. Once the hmr loses it's velocity and thus hydrostatic shocking effect, it becomes a .17 sized bullet that performs in a similar way to a .22 lr bullet but with less weight or cross section. The key is to keep within recommended ranges. As for speed of kill, there's no reason why a .17 hmr shouldn't be as instant as a larger calibre. You don't need a .50 to get an instant kill. It's all about the placement and hydro static shock effect. Those who come unstuck usually are shooting at excessive range or suffer poor shot placement (sometimes through factors beyond their -
.17 HMR Fox- heart or heart shot? Plus ammo.
Alsone replied to Billy_boy_2010's topic in Rimfire, Centrefire & Shotguns
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.17 HMR Fox- heart or heart shot? Plus ammo.
Alsone replied to Billy_boy_2010's topic in Rimfire, Centrefire & Shotguns
(Written to newbies knowledge not to you SD), The difference is .22 has too low a velocity to cause hydrostatic shock. It relies entirely on the slightly expanded head driving into a vital organ or blood vessel, or driving the very small area of energy immediately ahead of the bullet into the same. .22 LR also has marginal energy at range against a fox sized target. .17 HMR despite being small, causes considerable damage around the impact area through a hydro-static shock wave that expands sideways as well as forwards thus increasing it's ability to kill even though not directly on or ahe -
Sgc and required gp letter/merseyside police
Alsone replied to McKay's topic in Rimfire, Centrefire & Shotguns
I'd find out the fee up front and if if excessive, contact the BASC and find a doctor through them who'll do it for a lower fee. I don't know how it works but imagine they request remote access to your medical records most of which are electronic now. I agree with the BASC's position that Firearms Licensing needs to become part of the General Doctor's Contract. Without this, certificate holders are going to be held to ransom for ever. -
It's important to know what you're shooting at. In the US on many grounds / woods it's compulsory to wear fluorescent orange jackets and hats for this very reason. Whilst some may view that a bit extreme you have to remember in the US most public land is open to hunting and no-one knows who else is out. I would have thought there's no harm in wearing a regular florescent vest with fluorescent tape in the UK after dark of the type road workers and others wear if you're on a ground with lots of others who have a tendency to be trigger happy, for £3 it could save your life. If you're worried abou
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Yep. Helps having .204 though as its very flat.
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Whatever you get, I'd suggest getting a much larger one than you need. It's cheaper and less hassle to buy a larger one at the outset than to have to change up later. A bonus is more spare room makes it easier to get guns in and out.
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Sorry couldn't resist.
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Some of the Gamebore Cartridges use diamond shot. They will be more expensive because it uses a process to make the shot highly polished which makes them fly and penetrate better due to less friction. Obviously more machining = more production time = more cost. However, I bet for the majority of the cartridges the only difference is the amount of powder put into each different loading. Wadding, cases, primers and even powders are probably the same, with the only differences being the load - I bet all except the most specialised loadings use the same powder type. I used to buy Gamebore
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Maybe he should buy one of these. On the BBC, this seems to be the latest in camouflage: You've even got a head attachment for your gun sling.... ....and look how well the green one merges with the landscape: It's just a pity the green one doesn't come with the lamp holder you see on the red.
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I think some manufacturers are afraid that the potentially greater current in some rechargeable's may damage electronics. Never come across it personally. Not wanting to state the obvious, ?, even on here in the past some have used .22 subs to 100yds or more. I believe HO Guidance is 50yds from memory for fox (which is probably way less than some on here regularly shoot), and the board will also be read by people from searches who may be novices. I try to post to novices for that reason. The factor with subs some people forget is you only have @80-100 ft lbs at the muzzle, dependi
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Used to love Black Gold for Clays when they came sized as a clay round only. However, they always were expensive. For the field there's was nothing finer than Clear Pigeon. Hull now have some even faster cartridges but like you I question are they were the extra? I would still buy Clear Pigeon any day. One of the finest cartridges out there and designed to be both fast, very hard hitting and cheap.
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Body shots are OK so long as it's short distance. The Police guidance is short from memory with rf. Many will tell you they've been successful at longer ranges. My friend regularly used subs at 80yds. The question becomes one of at what distance does the risk of wounding increase to the point where the risk is unacceptable? There's also the risk of prosecution in making an inhumane shot at excessive range. Restrict .22rf to reasonable distances and base that also on your skill level. If in doubt don't take the shot or reach for a HMR or CF depending on the distance.
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They can use them as indicators as to your character and suitability eg whether you're prone to violent outbursts etc. Also some convictions can bar you for a set period or even life. As others have said, even speeding convictions can count against you if you have multiple as they are an indicator of no respect for the law. You need to declare everything. It's good you don't have any convictions but don't hide anything. As others have said, they can recall everything off the PNC and if you don't declare something it can lead to a refusal and even a prosecution. Be honest, talk to your local FA
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I believe Deker uses a 10/22 clone and swears by it. I forget which make / model, but might be worth a look if you want a cheap gun.
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It has been known for subs to lack the gas output to sufficiently blow back the action reliably on a semi auto. It's usually the rounds which are a bit low on powder rather than an every round issue. Not quite subs - but years ago I used to shoot under invitation to a competition on an indoor range with an FN FAL Semi Auto 7.62 (section 5 Firearm - (military invitation)). We used to use a barrel converter in those to convert them down to .22 for indoor use. In .22 we used to use .22 shorts. We had the same issue with occasional jams due to the amount of gas being produced being marginal t
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Merry Christmas.
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After seeing those foxes and what happened to the American, I'm not getting the underpants!
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Just found someone wearing fox leggings: Dangerous things those Christmas presents.
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Is this the comedy scene where you shoot yourself in the foot multiple times trying to get the foxes?
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I find it ridiculous you can't use a rifle given the relative humanness at range. The law would probably be better if it conferred greater powers on farmers to take action. No-one wants to see a dog shot. However, equally if it's killing your lively hood (quite literally), then action needs to be available without fear of prosecution. An increase in the number of (justified) dog shootings, might also have a deterrent effect on owners letting dogs off leashes in or adjacent to fields with small livestock such as sheep.
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From memory I believe it's only legal to use a shotgun. A rifle is illegal. Even then, as Walshie says, you're opening a can of worms as to whether the shooting was justified. I believe the dog has to be actively attacking the sheep. Best talk to an expert about the legalities. You also don't know what actions travellers will take afterwards. Sometimes even the police are afraid to go to traveller sites as they're not past shooting at people. Incident here where it's reported someone was lured to a site to sell his van and then was shot at when he backed off realising something was w
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Stavros answered your question above. The shoot has to comply with the law for minimum age etc. Beyond that, they can impose their own tighter rule restrictions if they like. A shoot is a private club after all and as such it can have it's own rules on who shoots and at what age, provided those rules don't conflict with or break the law.
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There's very little difference between the .17 and .22 Hornet apart from Nostalgia. The .17 has slightly more reach and is flatter. The .22 is slightly heavier although terminal effects seem similar. If you're shooting at long range then you might as well go .204, .223, .22-250 etc. It's more of a gap filler between rimmy and the latter rifles.
