i cant take credit for the photos Sean Frain first posted them to advertise his new book , Neil you shouldn't be to bothered about little quotes or misquotes, these northern boys had a very quick dry humor, i've meet a few over the years and your never sure if they are imparting some knowledge to you or taking the piss .....as far as i'm concerned both men kept and breed the very best there was at their time i will always think highly of them because without their input i would not of owned bred and worked and had so many years of fun with terriers Funny that Glyn, I never know whether the