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Well tuned into her quarry that bitch, tidy on the chase, never ceases to amaze me how much distance a rabbit can put on a dog from a sitting start, squatters look handy until they explode for home well done
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What age is it ? And how’s It bred , has it seen much work ?
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Why makes a lurcher pick their runs by the hedge?
Casso replied to springfield's topic in Lurchers & Running Dogs
All animals work off an energy expenditure ratio , output must equal input animals weight up the resistance value of pursuing prey , how much distance between us , how much energy to take it down, if it doesn’t equate in favour of calories earned Or resistance overcome, it’s not over stimulating dogs are different , the drive in dogs far exceed anything in nature, animal in the wild won’t run themselves to dire exhaustion like a dog, but that doesn’t mean nature doesn’t apply to dogs , dogs eventually figure it out another aspect of the sheepdog is the ability to keep the -
Proper recall,
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Ferreting rabbits with lurcher pup
Casso replied to Andrewreynoldshunting's topic in Lurchers & Running Dogs
Well shot , articulate individuals and a calm engaging pup, , well done sir -
You gotta ask yourself what bonding is and what the process is ? until sexuality your pup should be hunger driven / gut driven , after that he becomes more tactile and needs more physical contact in whatever form you chose, at that age use food to overcome fear, when pups venture into unknown wide open spaces , instinct kicks in , why wouldn’t it , it’s s tiny f***ing pup , in a world where it’s has no understanding of shit and it feels very Prey-like, it doesnt know there’s isn’t a bear through the next gate, f***ing dogs evolved in a world where eagles ate pups , ya get me t
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The issue for a lot of newcomers like yourself to the working dog world is that dog takes on human like qualities, my first job when I came home from school was to take the dogs out for the auld lad , for an hour at most sometimes less, they were kept in a run and such was the life of most working dogs back then, rarely in the house and we didn’t sit and whisper kind words crates are a useful tool for management of pups, it prevents us from having to confront then for displaying preydrive iand as you’ve recently discovered confronting a pup and trying to teach it right from wrong
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An hours training is plenty for pups if you know what your doing ? the rest of the time their in runs, no crate If you know what your doing , you can watch development from one day to next, a pup settled in his run can digest what it’s has just encountered, a pup put back into a stimulated environment can’t , stick round here long enough an you might learn a bit sucks
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Good to see your taking things on board ,
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it comes down to a hierarchy of Wants , two or three pups become a half or a third of the whole , they will separate themselves according to temperament what I want from raising a pup is uncompromising want for everything , so if a pup with a bigger temperament wants to hang round me more a lesser tempered one will have to give in that aspect and so it goes on , what one wants the other has to disregard , they separate into equal but opposite desires, one pup becomes a more rounded animal in all aspects , it’s far easier to develop desire for anything with an uncompromising pu
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Fair play to the yanks , took an ancient Gaelic festival imported by Irish immigrants to the US , used the pumpkin instead of the turnip , ham it up to the 9’s and sold the idea round the world all the kids celebrating an ancient Irish festival , f***ing class ?
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Had a first cross many years ago, great bitch , lacked a little top speed but learnt to use the hedge to her advantage, as for headstrong, breeds that were originally bred to kill on there own , terriers saluki etc are less inclined to respond to instruction when stimulated as say collie crosses , collies arnt bred to kill, the very act of working with its owner is feedback enough as in any breed what we love about them and what we f***ing hate about them is always closely linked , we love the drive determination and single mindfulness , we hate the stubbornness , aggression when
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To be honest about it I always found it a lot less hassle to start a lamping dog on the lamp your working with a blank canvas to mold how the pup interprets it’s enviroment, its olfactory system is connected to its motor cortex so a dog is strung into action through scent quicker than sight , and the history of hunting by scent is in direct contrast to running purely by sight whereas information by sight is based on form , a dogs first reaction when it spots something is to classify that form and that takes fractions of a second longer than any scent driven interest,
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Sometimes there’s a couple of issues involved this one is learnt behavior if a dog feels the best use of its energy is booting round a field regardless of owner, that’s what he’ll do, though entering if he feels his movement causes rabbits to appear, that exactly what’s going to happen One dog one owner, nice and fuckjng quiet, I don’t give a shit if he don’t catch as long as he feels I had something to do with a rabbit appearing, on a slip beside me give him a heads up you’ve spotted a rabbit , walk nice and calm slip when seen , Theres no f***ing secret in lamping, w
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It’s about personal space and the effect it has on dogs we all have a space around us which we deem as our own , face to face is where we feel it most , some f****r gets up in yer face , you feel it emotionally , exact same for the dog , for the dog to have to open it’s mouth it has to change its mindset
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At what point are they getting away bud, is she catching and letting go , or is she reluctant to mouth or is she bringing them back and dropping them ?
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Are we dealing with a pack mindset or do you have any handle on either of them two of them are young fresh dogs and plenty of running in them, they don’t usually need much of a trigger if your serious about it , only feed out of the van when you get back , you need to work with hunger , make that the routine, only feed for commands and behavior don’t bowl feed if your too confrontational with them they’ll withdraw into pack instinct whatever attracts the leader , work with it ball food tug item Any thing that makes you attractive to the dogs stimulated mind
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I would believe that one is f***ing off and one is following, forget about any training at home it’s a totally different mindset , it’s the energised mind set of the lead dog you need to work with, you don’t say how long those two have been together or what vintage ?
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That’s what it’s all about Terry
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Burn a bit of steam off earlier on in the day if you know your going out at night teach the pup to bark on command as a stationary behavior , as Bird mentioned earlier a dog can contrast between expressing a behavior in a certain environment or not, but try your bollox off not to over match, had a bitch who would only make a sound when she knew she was over matched and straighlined never when knocking a few turns out
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Pups are fuckers for investigating anything with a preyfull essence, sheep shit , cat shit basically any bodily secretion The most basic form of attraction is ingestion, if the object is a little too predatory like fox shite, physical contact fulfills that attraction, farmer shit eating episodes are by far the most stomach churning dog hating isssues , f***ing dog comes running over with scatty whiskers and chin, fecking delighted with himself filthy b*****d
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As the man said and well put , don’t be in a panic to get the perfect retrieve with pups the pup should be in the same head space with an object on its own and also in your space, holding something prized in its jaws while moving around your space is a predatory act, if you think about it, no pup walks around with a prized item in the wild without going unchallenged unless they are the most predatory in the pack, it’s a state of mind a feel good state retrieve in pups should start from a carry, can the pup carry a prized item along side, without feeling venerable without
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The value of letting a pup be a pup
Casso replied to Lurcherman332's topic in Lurchers & Running Dogs
Separate the retrieve from the recall, Retrieve should come from a bite and carry If pups name is used in recall and retrieve, any ignored recall given will bleed into the retrieve and visaversa any reluctant retrieve will degrade recall for recall get a nose touch to the palm of your left hand , for a retrieve get down on your hunkers and get body contact with object still in pups mouth, don’t take the object, get it to walk and carry for a short time , stop and reward , it’s the carry of a prized item in your space for the pup thats the pay off , that’s the feel good facto -
The value of letting a pup be a pup
Casso replied to Lurcherman332's topic in Lurchers & Running Dogs
Pups have zero impulse control, the impulse to act on stimulation at that age is instinctive , if it moves, grab it I won’t confront a pup for displaying an excited mind or behaviour , it’s a state of mind you have to work with !! Pups construe the world though a predator/ prey ratio” what causes me to feel predator like” is tagged as positive and” what stops me” is tagged as a negative , Us included so by the time sexuality strikes and your still seen as a positive, serious training becomes a lot easier manage the pup so you don’t have to confront because if you don -
a Dog only ever has a physical problem bud , if you think about it very f***ing issue we have with the dog has an energetic element to it , chasing a cat , jumping up , ripping up shit , even whining is a low energetic vibration , quality time with dogs involve movement, not sitting on sofa together , patting , whispering, none of that shit has any revelance to building a bond, the primordial aspect of a dogs character is the key pet dogs get hooked on chasing ball it’s the only instinctive expression they have , prey instinct is a gateway into the cani
