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Everything posted by gnasher16
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Agreed....it doesnt make sense to me that folk putting their hard earned money on good dogs wouldnt develop an understanding of what creates them. Re Max,before he became a complete mong ? we exchanged a few thoughts on the subject and without wanting to take a cheap swipe at the lad,it was clear to me his basic understanding of physiology and biomechanics etc was nowhere near the level of top dog matchers but horses for courses different sports and im sure he knows enough about his own game to do well no problem......again i dont think the connection between gamedog fitness and running d
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When i said about how dogs acclimate i meant in terms of protein/fat/carb etc ratios as opposed to raw or kibble but yes i get what you're saying......the " shock " you talk about was always a contentious issue in gamedogs you had those who maybe only kept 1 or 2 dogs and kept them at a high level of fitness year round....and then you had those who had multiple dogs and woulld keep them healthy but out of shape until a match was made.....some people felt that the dog fitter to start with had the advantage as he was halfway there kind of thing but my opinion was always that the " shock " you de
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You's are all having a discussion about how to not get killed by spades in our own country......see how it works !
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Might be a bit of a berk in many ways but just a straight up good lad in my opinion....grounded,proud,a credit to his parents and his area good on him.
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Lovely looking hound mate looks really well....but this is where i just cant see the connection between gamedog knowledge and running dog knowledge you are looking for a high level of general health and fitness where bulldog folk are looking for a one time peak at a very specific weight....the last part of a bulldogs keep is far from a safe place for the dog as his hydration level is at a bare minimum,body fat is low and blood counts are in the extreme.....he's in amazing physical condition but not completely healthy. Bulldog folk dont feed a dog for good general health thats where the pr
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Possibly mate i dont know enough about running dogs or have enough experience of them to answer really.....it would be such a different goal nutritionally though i dont really see the connection but of course all knowledge helps. With bulldogs it was a combination of strength/power/endurance/toughness/stamina on a single moment of a single day so supplement wise its all geared up towards a high red cell count naturally....of course dogs dont use carbs like we do fat is the main energy source so reading Mchull say he doesnt feed a sporting dog raw i find quite amazing in all honesty and if
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The front leg vein would always be priority, if that was down you'd go to a rear leg and worse case scenario into the jugular ( if you know what you're doing )....a vein could be collapsed due to low blood pressure/blood loss from a bleeder etc the first priority with hv shock is restoring an effective circulating blood volume so Vit K injectible to help with clotting and once your iv is set 5cc of Azium into a bag of fluids....these days they use Solu Delta Cortef as its still anti shock/anti inflam but stronger,an intra muscular anti biotic injection and another 3cc Azium under the skin and
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Wouldnt like to say who has " the best " dogs as such but from what im told in Europe yes Russia and the Balkans seem to be doing well with their conditioning but are still behind with their understanding of breeding....obviously relaxed laws and being able to keep huge yards of dogs all helps.... id still say places like South America/Ecuador etc if push came to shove are the most competitive areas with most titled dogs/roms etc
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We was feeding raw before raw was really a thing in dogs just from basic understanding of nutrition....of course supplements played their part also and at the extreme end juice but yes very few people were matching dogs on dog food as such even back then.
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No prob mate again its all in the past for me so nothing really to hide...not for me to talk about folk still involved in dogs of course but it was certainly an addictive sport.....folk would deal with shock in different ways with different drugs but the basics were to get the dog stable so his organs dont start shutting down and get fluids into him asap... it would be hypovolemic shock as opposed to trauma shock so the dog will have lost salts/potassium etc through dehydration and more often than not the venous blood volume drops/blood pressure and it becomes a race against time as quite ofte
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arrrr mystery solved....and Sweep was from Two Toes thats right. I can barely remember my own name most days but a 30 year old dog pedigree no problem at all ?
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If thats a true story then its beautiful in its own way.
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Money will always play its part and only an idiot would pretend deaths didnt and dont happen in the sport but the vast majority of dogs who take their death do so because of bad medical care afterwards....so many dogs have been lost by people who learned everything about breeding and conditioning but never learned fully how to doctor a dog afterwards....obviously shock kills more fighting dogs than anything else and you'd be amazed how many people who match dogs dont know how to deal with it. But at a guess you'd probably estimate under 20% of dogs are lost directly.
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Too many Chuckies !....ridiculous f****n name anyway ?
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Not entirely true mate but close enough......it was actually called a " Scratch in turn " contest......so as soon as a dog turned its head and shoulders away,the opponents handler would call a " turn " on the dog and it would be that dog to scratch ( scratch meaning to cross the pit and at least mouth the other dog in order to show willingness to continue )......it then became a " scratch in turn " contest but you could only pick a dog up when out of holds a lot of it would become very tactical a good handler would choose his moments carefully and a really good handler like the gent mentioned
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Like most things mate theres a lot more involved than first impressions show you.....good on you for looking into it a little bit instead of taking the usual News of the World horror show attitude.
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I know mate yes i just meant it was something in the leg as opposed to the hip.
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He was never matched at his true weight either simply because im not sure they could put him through a proper keep due to his injury so he was always going uphill.....incredible really.
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My memory is normally pretty good for peds but cant quite remember now wasnt he a Two Toes dog or grandson of Two Toes....must admit i thought he was owned by Oddbod who was spoke about earlier in the thread but i could be wrong or he was sold on etc
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I think it was actually his stifle that was gone rather than his hip......slipping patella or something. Some dog though.... i never liked to admit it years ago as it was an England v Scotland thing but as you wise up through life you just have to hold your hands up sometimes.....he was a hell of a bulldog and produced the same fair play.
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So many dogs were ruined in those early days as youngsters we all just thought they was machines im sure you will have read bits about this young lad we was literally rolling him out every other weekend from the minute he was on at 10 months !....its hard to admit but he wasnt far off " abused "....people said he stopped in his 4th which he did but the dog was shot to pieces before he was even fully mature.....hard one to accept and you live and learn but i hope he's had a whale of a time up there in bulldog heaven.
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There was mate yes....as was another group in that area caught out in a similar way.
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Most proper shows would be near silent apart from referee and handlers it was never good etiquette to be jumping about shouting in the crowd.....not that it made any difference the dogs were too focused on what they were doing for it to make much difference in my opinion.....i remember hearing about one of the first big raids in a sports hall years ago rspca/plod busted in knocking doors down chasing everyone about,lads jumping out of windows etc the dogs never batted an eyelid and plod were infact criticised for " allowing " the dogs to carry on longer than necessary.
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Most people with multiple dogs will " pre keep " a dog for 1 month and " keep " the dog for 8 - 10 weeks.....if its an only dog they'll normally be at a much higher level of fitness to start with and 8 weeks from the off is usually fine. 3 wins for Championship.....5 wins with no losses for Gr Ch. Most dogs will be all used up after 3 mid - long matches dont forget they will have already had their schooling which all takes out of a dog....some of course are more resilient than others and go on to have 5 and 6 but the nervous system starts taking a pounding towards the end of a dogs
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Pretty much mate yes....no contact of course the way a fighter might spar up to a week before a fight dogs see no contact whatsoever....and yes the general concept is the same,steroids of course allow for shorter rest and higher output....a lot of people can send a dog in " fit "....but truly peaking a dog for that few hours takes more than that and is an art in my opinion.
