cheers mate, fingers crossed they work out alright. what do you think looking at the liver bitch, with that colour could she be a straight half bred ? i always thought first crosses were all black. your pups look spot on, a bit heavier than mine maybe, that snap of Milly had be in sticthes , cracker pic. i'm well pleased with my dog pup, he's no bother and sensible with it, kenneled the new pup with him last night and they curled up together not a bleep out of them.