Personally ,i've seen a great many fox killers to ground and from most recognised breeds too .Dont own one at the minute ,that is to say not a regular killer as in the true sense of the description .Owned a black type once that had it down to a tea ,shut many a farmer up i can tell you .We used him mainly on big bale stacks and undiggable rocky places .I saw him kill twice ,once in an old electric duct on a deserted RAF camp and again in some broken paving slabs .He was' nt particular about his first hold ,offering his shoulder to get under the throat but hes long dead .Once saw a tiny JRT th