Most working beddys have ND stuff in them mine do anyway ,but not only his as he wasn’t the only bloke breeding working beddys ,if you take a look at most working beddys W papers you will see most are closely related ,and the f1 retrieving a duck ain’t shy of teeth either to me a lurcher that don’t retrieve is as good as ash tray on a motor bike , oh the laughing face was indicating how right you were about the revival of the so called W beddy is only used for rats .