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Everything posted by Deker
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Ric On the face of it the .204 has a lot going for it, the reality is charts are not field work, the calibre is exceptionally fussy and has a tendancy to surface splash, so the book says good, field work says think carefully! I have ABSOLUTELY NO INTEREST in a .204! ATB! What would you be interested in I guess 223? This bullet splash, would it really be that bad on a fox? I can understand on a coyote but I would have thought it would do enough damage to a fox wherever it hit. I have no experience with the 204 so I can't make an informed opinion. Im concerned the 32 or 33g
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Ric On the face of it the .204 has a lot going for it, the reality is charts are not field work, the calibre is exceptionally fussy and has a tendancy to surface splash, so the book says good, field work says think carefully! I have ABSOLUTELY NO INTEREST in a .204! ATB! What would you be interested in I guess 223? This bullet splash, would it really be that bad on a fox? I can understand on a coyote but I would have thought it would do enough damage to a fox wherever it hit. I have no experience with the 204 so I can't make an informed opinion. Im concerned the 32 or 33g
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Seems I am back to this a bit late, but if you have to shim your scope or run out of adjustment play at .22lr distances you seriously need to throw away the scope and start again!
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Help me understand this, it's a HMR, so anything that works out to 150 yards will be fine. What is all this BULL I keep hearing about needing quality glass for night work, you simply need a half decent lamping kit!
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Whilst EVERY calibre has a use, I can't help thinking this is past it's sell by!
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Ric On the face of it the .204 has a lot going for it, the reality is charts are not field work, the calibre is exceptionally fussy and has a tendancy to surface splash, so the book says good, field work says think carefully! I have ABSOLUTELY NO INTEREST in a .204! ATB!
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Hi Snap I would not argue on what you have said, simple fact is the .204 is EXCEPTIONALLY fussy, and if you get a good one you are in business, it has still not taken off in the Uk as it has so many issues. So..a bit of a dilema to answer this one, but I'm not a fan of the odds on the .204, the one and only I have first hand experience of was non stop problems and gone very quickly, despite lots of home brew trials to get some ammo it liked!
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Trespass,poaching,Sight seeing, ok! ?
Deker replied to TWOTWOTHREE's topic in Rimfire, Centrefire & Shotguns
I have a lot of land but to the best of my knowledge only one piece I have poacher issues with. Don't mess, don't get involved, don't go near them with a gun...call the Police and tell them there are armed trespassers on the land. They will respond, if the don't kick up shit with the Chief Constable! -
Well, that rules out centrefires for most people too.....
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That is the biggest load of Bullshit I have heard, on what basis do they make this earth shattering suggestion the HMR is a SAFER round?
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As many have said here they are DIFFERENT tools and both serve their purposes, if you have no need for one then fine, if you do, then you simply have to put up with everything you have said above!
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I do have some rimfires, and have used a few over the years, I have no need for anything other than CZ in the field! Anyone can have an issue with a plastic stock, but I run a HMR and .22lr Silhouette, my lad has a Style and I know many other synthetic stock, Bipod, CZ users, who have no problems! Mine are used almost exclusively with a Bipod and then slung over my shoulder by the Bipod attachment, so they take a pounding...no problems yet! The varmint barrel is NOT more accurate, unless by some chance you decide to empty about 20 magazines straight off and "Warm" the barrel up, it ma
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should if got a HMR then really Most people tend to zero their .22lr around 60 yards, 75-110 is certainly capable for the .22lr, but personally I too would suggest that distance spread is better suited for HMR or WMR (sorry, I can't bring myself to say HM2). For those calibres zero half way, around 90-95 yards and then all you have to do is point and shoot, if you miss it is your fault and not the tool! ATB!
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They are all good and there isn't a best, the Varmint is too heavy for me, I run Silhouettes and Americans, my lad has the Style...it's what you want or suits you!
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Mine runs FAC at 26ft lb, it's 11 years old, has had a lot of use, and has been serviced once, when the breach block cracked!! Service it when you are happy to obviously!
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When you need to. This depends on usage, your cleaning/storage regime, etc. For the vast majority a PCP service every couple of years (which will tend to cover seal changes) is plenty. Let's not get carried away, in principle if it aint broke don't mess!
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Barrels can be difficult, you will very often find considering a whole brand new rifle more cost effective!
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I will be fascinated to hear how this saga turns out! ATB!
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You say optimal but do you think it will make that much difference shooting foxes 250yrds and less with a 32g? Im thinking of the sako as I like the feel of them. Im thinking Im going to just try the lighter bullet with the sako with 1 in 12 and then if it doesn't work get on the phone to border barrels. Do you need to vary your fac to change a barrel of the same calibre? Sako Am I getting confused, if I understand your responses correctly you are only looking at a .204 because your night vision is not rated for above .223, therefore not suggested on your 22-250 I'm gettin
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Long barrels are essential to get the best out of the .204, what difference their will be between the two above I know not, but getting a .204 and chopping the barrel short is counter productive!
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A .223 will not generally do everything a .204 can as few will want very light and fast ammo in it, BUT..... A .223 CAN do pretty much anything a .204 can if you use the right ammo and have the right barrel and twist, you then turn it into a .204 on steroids and it is pretty useless at anything else! I have no need to knock down crows at 300 yards with a .204, and there are better tools for fox, be careful of ammo and surface splash, it isn't a deer calibre and is daft for rabbits, I have no need for it. It obviously has a place, but you need to find a gun/ammo/quarry combination th
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I have had first hand experience of them, although not owned one, and know owners who have had them and got rid quickly. They are a pretty specialized tool and FUSSY. I have .223, .243 and .308 in the centerfires as well as a collection of air rifles, rimfires and shotguns, I run my own Game and Vermin Control company, I am Secretary of a Home Office approved Rifle club at Bisley and a Deer Mentor. I have no requirement for a .204. Others may! ATB!
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You will need HMR as well, some numb nuts at your licensing may think you mean a .177 air rifle, but there are also .17 Centrefires, all very different animals to the HMR.
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The .204 is a notoriously fussy calibre, ammo, barrels, twists, barrel length, the list goes on. If you get lucky out of the box then fine, many have to reload to get what they want and some apparently chuck away their factory barrel and get a custom. There are of course happy owners, but in most situations there are also easier to get on with alternatives, think carefully about the specific need for a .204 before investing!
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As you may have noticed most people think the best gun is the one they have, hey, it's human nature, you don't see many people say... I have a Remington ....it is S**t I have a Howa... it is S**t I have a Tikka... it is S**t I have a Winchester.... it is S**t I have a Browning...... it is S**t I have a Steyr... it is S**t I have a Sako...it is S**t I have a CZ... it is S**t I have a whatever ..it is S**t There are very few bad makes out there, they simply do not survive, there are obviously a few bad guns, it happens. Get what you want, that you can afford and makes you fe
