paul sr 1,046 Posted Tuesday at 12:08 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 12:08 6 minutes ago, chartpolski said: Just heard that Starmer is “considering” sending HMS Duncan, our only seaworthy Type45 to the Med, but it will take a week to get there ! FFS, the illegals are crossing the Chanel in dinghies faster than that . Also, our only seaworthy cruise missiles capable Astute Class sub is in Australia on a training exercise. Meanwhile the French are redeploying their Charles de Gaul carrier group to the Med and have two frigates allready there and Greece has sent two frigates and aircraft. Where are our two carriers ? Not that it really matters as we don’t have enough aircraft to put on them , enough support ships or enough personnel to man them. What a sorry state of affairs…… Cheers. Starmer , should consider protecting UK borders, instead of getting involved in another war for Israel benefit . 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 18,045 Posted Tuesday at 13:41 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 13:41 (edited) I find it wild that we are even having conversations about redirecting our forces for border control. A nation of our size and history should be able to carry out effective border control with drones, ships and maritime boarding units and still defend all overseas bases and territories from air strikes and still carry out a carrier training operation in the high north and have sufficient specialist units forward deployed to evacuate and rescue British nationals caught out. And frankly, in addition to all that, be able to fight a sustain brigade/division level land war if needed. That should be the standard, not a distant dream afforded by the delusion of everlasting peace. Edited Tuesday at 13:42 by Born Hunter 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
.357shooter 1,458 Posted Tuesday at 14:03 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 14:03 22 hours ago, WataWalloper said: Saw videos of the cops holding back locals who were trying to get him ffs cops are Fcuking useless these days Apparently locals have complained to the police for weeks About this animal.have heard he was trying to get at kids in a nursery. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 30,337 Posted Tuesday at 14:26 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 14:26 Just playing devil's advocate here.... Are we all on here being hypocritical myself included ....I think that wretch starmer should be standing with Trump...not being pathetic and grovelling..."we arnt involved ".... But how many times have WE got involved and us lot on here are complaining about it...lol... look when Blair took us to war... Thoughts?? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WataWalloper 5,170 Posted Tuesday at 14:32 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 14:32 28 minutes ago, .357shooter said: Apparently locals have complained to the police for weeks About this animal.have heard he was trying to get at kids in a nursery. It’s not exactly the nicest area in the world, there’s a lot a rough locals, can see the rest of the Somalians getting a real hard time there now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 31,656 Posted Tuesday at 14:46 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 14:46 17 minutes ago, TOMO said: . look when Blair took us to war... Thoughts?? On the strength of a lie-WMD. 13 minutes ago, WataWalloper said: can see the rest of the Somalians getting a real hard time there now They could always migrate to Minnesota 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 52,638 Posted Tuesday at 15:09 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 15:09 (edited) 1 hour ago, Born Hunter said: I find it wild that we are even having conversations about redirecting our forces for border control. A nation of our size and history should be able to carry out effective border control with drones, ships and maritime boarding units and still defend all overseas bases and territories from air strikes and still carry out a carrier training operation in the high north and have sufficient specialist units forward deployed to evacuate and rescue British nationals caught out. And frankly, in addition to all that, be able to fight a sustain brigade/division level land war if needed. That should be the standard, not a distant dream afforded by the delusion of everlasting peace. I think it’s a measure of the neglected state of the nation mate……as in, we live in a delusion of “well it’s worse in (insert name of town/city/country here)” ……how many times do you hear that ? But imho, that completely misses the point, and the point is how far we have fallen !……not just us, but “the west” in general…..however, we must be right at the top of the “before & after” list of decline ! The reason I wrote that post about D-Day was to highlight the difference……us then, us now ! Everyone, and I mean everyone should be in a blind panic and state of rage about the sheer size of the gap between the Britain of 1944 and the Britain of 2026 !……it makes the fall of the Roman Empire look like nothing ! Like, that just shouldn’t be allowed to slide in people’s daily thinking ! Edited Tuesday at 15:10 by WILF 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 18,045 Posted Tuesday at 15:12 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 15:12 35 minutes ago, TOMO said: Just playing devil's advocate here.... Are we all on here being hypocritical myself included ....I think that wretch starmer should be standing with Trump...not being pathetic and grovelling..."we arnt involved ".... But how many times have WE got involved and us lot on here are complaining about it...lol... look when Blair took us to war... Thoughts?? Agree, I’m not sure that bombing Iran is the right thing to do but whatever we do we should do from a position of strength. What we as a nation are doing now does not look strong. Also, Iran would be like Iraq x10. From a purely pragmatic point of view I think we are in an era of whoever has the biggest stick is in the right, and with that I’d probably opt to back the yanks up to but not including an invasion. I’d like to see us have the capability to comprehensively defend our territories, evacuate all citizens, be a lead in defending shipping in the straits and seizing Iranian tankers. That’s strength proportional to our size that leaves the stupid stuff like regime change to the big boys. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paul sr 1,046 Posted Tuesday at 15:44 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 15:44 26 minutes ago, WILF said: I think it’s a measure of the neglected state of the nation mate……as in, we live in a delusion of “well it’s worse in (insert name of town/city/country here)” ……how many times do you hear that ? But imho, that completely misses the point, and the point is how far we have fallen !……not just us, but “the west” in general…..however, we must be right at the top of the “before & after” list of decline ! The reason I wrote that post about D-Day was to highlight the difference……us then, us now ! Everyone, and I mean everyone should be in a blind panic and state of rage about the sheer size of the gap between the Britain of 1944 and the Britain of 2026 !……it makes the fall of the Roman Empire look like nothing ! Like, that just shouldn’t be allowed to slide in people’s daily thinking ! When i look at what Norway has done with there oil money for the good of there people . There national wealth fund is about $1.8 trillion . Why did Britain not do the same ? . 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 52,638 Posted Tuesday at 15:52 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 15:52 6 minutes ago, paul sr said: When i look at what Norway has done with there oil money for the good of there people . There national wealth fund is about $1.8 trillion . Why did Britain not do the same ? . Because we pissed it all away on nonsense and making politicians owners fat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 18,045 Posted Tuesday at 16:33 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 16:33 46 minutes ago, paul sr said: When i look at what Norway has done with there oil money for the good of there people . There national wealth fund is about $1.8 trillion . Why did Britain not do the same ? . It funded the thatcher era tax cuts didn’t it? Essentially ‘we’ spent it as soon as we got it. And iirc it is like an effective 90% rate so they f***ing raped it to death. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chesney 5,726 Posted Tuesday at 17:33 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 17:33 The Donald not happy with Britain and Spain next regime change will be them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 10,637 Posted Tuesday at 17:35 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 17:35 1 minute ago, chesney said: The Donald not happy with Britain and Spain next regime change will be them Happy days cant wait lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 31,656 Posted Tuesday at 17:50 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 17:50 15 minutes ago, chesney said: The Donald not happy with Britain The so called “Special-relationship” has been a bit one sided for years Blighty is slipping down the rankings and very much on her own. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waltjnr 8,587 Posted Tuesday at 18:33 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 18:33 Not Churchill! Starmer not worthy of lighting one of he's cigars ,he'd only fuk it up ! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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