steve66 3,086 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 Quite surprised to see a 48 yo women involved in the middle of the shooting last year , glad to see then receive some hefty sentences 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,300 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, tatsblisters said: Never in a million years would you think the youth of pit villages would have been influenced by black American gang culture. Our youth are bombarded with it, it’s all they have ever known. Every-time they turn on the TV, go to school, read any media……it’s all pervading and it’s relentless. To be fair, it’s now a second and third generation thing……it’s not just young people. Young people are reaping the harvest of the seeds we allowed to be sown. We have lowered our own bar so much that it comes as absolutely no surprise to see so many crawling about in the gutter. Edited October 31, 2021 by WILF 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 42,876 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 Listened to hip hop for over 30 yrs...I don't wear my trousers around my arse,have a stone in my shoe for that Gangstar limp,or call everyone Blood.....I'm 42 yrs old,white male,and go to work for a living...only drive by I ever been involved with Is throwing a few eggs on Halloween 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,300 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Daniel cain said: Listened to hip hop for over 30 yrs...I don't wear my trousers around my arse,have a stone in my shoe for that Gangstar limp,or call everyone Blood.....I'm 42 yrs old,white male,and go to work for a living...only drive by I ever been involved with Is throwing a few eggs on Halloween I agree, “hip-hop” isnt to blame, it’s less complicated than that imho. See, when I see all that American “gansta” nonsense and how they crack on, it’s not really an “American” thing……it’s the 3rd world with gadgets ! It’s normal, natural behaviour but with just more stuff. Over in Africa they would be sporting a big flowery shirt, a 10 year old Lexus and a white pair of knock off gucci loafers……in the states it’s a bentley, a set of gold teeth with matching silly hat and a watch the size of Big Ben. Still treating women like something to be abused, still promoting killing your neighbours to get more stuff, still base instinct things except one place has dirt roads and one has tarmac and valet parking. Same behaviours, different things. Edited October 31, 2021 by WILF 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 20,864 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 Young people have always been influenced by other styles and fashions and new ways of doing things....but for generations we also had britishness and British standards to return to. For the last 20 years we have simply abandoned that. Watch a documentary about British history and it has to be about destroying our heroes and ancestors. Watch any TV presenter and they have to be black, or gay, or talk with a 'youth' accent. Our cultural identity and national heroes have to include Mandela, afros and street dance. As WILF said its all we have seen now for so long they know nothing else. I was in a restaurant Friday night and a whole family came in dressed in tracksuits and trainers.....on a Friday night in a posh restaurant. Standards not only mean nothing but a whole country has abandoned them. They may only be simple things but as Jordan peterson said....if your bedroom is a mess your country will be a disaster 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ArchieHood 3,692 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 44 minutes ago, Daniel cain said: Listened to hip hop for over 30 yrs...I don't wear my trousers around my arse,have a stone in my shoe for that Gangstar limp,or call everyone Blood.....I'm 42 yrs old,white male,and go to work for a living...only drive by I ever been involved with Is throwing a few eggs on Halloween 26 minutes ago, WILF said: I agree, “hip-hop” isnt to blame, it’s less complicated than that imho. See, when I see all that American “gansta” nonsense and how they crack on, it’s not really an “American” thing……it’s the 3rd world with gadgets ! It’s normal, natural behaviour but with just more stuff. Over in Africa they would be sporting a big flowery shirt, a 10 year old Lexus and a white pair of knock off gucci loafers……in the states it’s a bentley, a set of gold teeth with matching silly hat and a watch the size of Big Ben. Still treating women like something to be abused, still promoting killing your neighbours to get more stuff, still base instinct things except one place has dirt roads and one has tarmac and valet parking. Same behaviours, different things. The clues in the name homies...Gangsta Rap.Gang culture is still one of the strongest elements of hip hop and rap.Why threaten someone to there face when you can sing a song to them...,? Word up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,300 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 minute ago, ArchieHood said: The clues in the name homies...Gangsta Rap.Gang culture is still one of the strongest elements of hip hop and rap.Why threaten someone to there face when you can sing a song to them...,? Word up. Ahhh…..but are they as good as the Irish traveller call out video ? Lol 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 25,258 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 Drugs and the money they bring are what has changed everything not music, skin colour or anything else when kids can do a few deals and earn 10k they will do anything to protect there new found wealth, and when your customers are stupid enough to do anything you ask for a free baggie this is were it all ends guns are ten a penny and divvies willing to fire them just as common 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,300 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Greyman said: Drugs and the money they bring are what has changed everything not music, skin colour or anything else when kids can do a few deals and earn 10k they will do anything to protect there new found wealth, and when your customers are stupid enough to do anything you ask for a free baggie this is were it all ends guns are ten a penny and divvies willing to fire them just as common I agree with that but I think you missed a very important thing out…….the biggest thing (imho) to have changed is what we regard as “normal” This stuff has seeped into every nook, cranny and pore of society. Theres always been crime, but there hasn’t always been the acceptance of how it touches so many lives and the lives of our young. 3rd world is the new normal. Edited October 31, 2021 by WILF 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
low plains drifter 9,463 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 3 hours ago, tatsblisters said: Never in a million years would you think the youth of pit villages would have been influenced by black American gang culture. Maybe they wouldn't have had the coal mines remained open 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
steve66 3,086 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 Enjoy watching some of the rat packs on youtube , west mids, sufolk and norfolk and the north east lads always seem to do well with there tykes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
low plains drifter 9,463 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 3 hours ago, DIDO.1 said: Young people have always been influenced by other styles and fashions and new ways of doing things....but for generations we also had britishness and British standards to return to. For the last 20 years we have simply abandoned that. Watch a documentary about British history and it has to be about destroying our heroes and ancestors. Watch any TV presenter and they have to be black, or gay, or talk with a 'youth' accent. Our cultural identity and national heroes have to include Mandela, afros and street dance. As WILF said its all we have seen now for so long they know nothing else. I was in a restaurant Friday night and a whole family came in dressed in tracksuits and trainers.....on a Friday night in a posh restaurant. Standards not only mean nothing but a whole country has abandoned them. They may only be simple things but as Jordan peterson said....if your bedroom is a mess your country will be a disaster I'm getting visions of a pre scrap yard Lexus, white slip ons and Lacoste tracksuits allround Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,133 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 3 hours ago, Greyman said: Drugs and the money they bring are what has changed everything not music, skin colour or anything else when kids can do a few deals and earn 10k they will do anything to protect there new found wealth, and when your customers are stupid enough to do anything you ask for a free baggie this is were it all ends guns are ten a penny and divvies willing to fire them just as common Very erudite, G, and bang on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 10,440 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 5 hours ago, Greyman said: Drugs and the money they bring are what has changed everything not music, skin colour or anything else when kids can do a few deals and earn 10k they will do anything to protect there new found wealth, and when your customers are stupid enough to do anything you ask for a free baggie this is were it all ends guns are ten a penny and divvies willing to fire them just as common they not making 10k here and there mate be making a bit a crack money smoking the f****r by the looks and sounds of it asking a user /junkie to do out they must be smoking crack they sing as soon as there grabbed be why there lifed off 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 23,783 Posted December 6, 2021 Report Share Posted December 6, 2021 Used to hand catch them as a kid,got to spin them a bit to disorient them, always liked rats. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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