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Bit of a mystery. It looks specialised, I genuinely thought someone on here would know.... perhaps it is just a general tool rather than something special. A bit of me still thinks something to do with railways 

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6 hours ago, baker boy said:

Never seen 1 like that down the pits I worked ( doesnt mean other areas didnt use them ) we did use a hawk which was half sledgehammer half hatchet

Was a bit bigger than that Iv got the head in my shed somewere il see if I can dig it out this aul boy worked since he was 13 an u no some the tales them aul boys could tell haha but it’s not a dykers hammer probly a mortar pick isn’t it...... what about Monday shovels eh?

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On 08/07/2022 at 17:09, DIDO.1 said:

My nipper found this pick down the woods. Other than burying prostitutes what might it of been used for? It looks like it's got a special use ie. not an ordinary pick but some particular type 

 

I don't know why but I thought a railway tool? 

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Yes, it is a railway tool. It was used by platelayers when they used to tamp and level the track. It is all done by on track machines nowadays. The uneven track was initially detected using the human eye and sighting along a length of track, 2 metal flags were then clipped to the rail that needed adjustment. The ballast was dug out under the line to be adjusted and jacked up by hand. The curved pointy end was aimed under the sleeper to help support it and make a gap to hammer individual pieces of ballast under the sleeper to pack it to the required level. Either end of the tool could be used for the purpose. This was done 'between trains' on an open track, the jack would be removed to allow the next train to bed the track and it would then be re-sighted, if OK then the removed ballast was replaced. This was the practise up to mid 70's, when there were permanent way gangs based all over the railway until they started using the machines.

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On 08/07/2022 at 17:09, DIDO.1 said:

My nipper found this pick down the woods. Other than burying prostitutes what might it of been used for? It looks like it's got a special use ie. not an ordinary pick but some particular type 

 

I don't know why but I thought a railway tool? 

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I used one similar down the pit when i was road laying that's laying the track for tubs and locos' the hammer end was used for hammering dog nails into the wooden sleepers each side of the fish plates.

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Our kid was sweeping someone's chimney when he noticed they had a rather unusual poker for the fire. Turns out to be a french bayonet. 1868 is inscribed on it....along with some writing, presumably in French but we can't make it out as yet. I believe the foreign legion were in Mexico during that period, including their most famous battle at camerone. So perhaps the writing is Spanish? I've suggested we try and trace the writing to make it clearer but the old fashioned inscribed writing is making it difficult 

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9 hours ago, DIDO.1 said:

Our kid was sweeping someone's chimney when he noticed they had a rather unusual poker for the fire. Turns out to be a french bayonet. 1868 is inscribed on it....along with some writing, presumably in French but we can't make it out as yet. I believe the foreign legion were in Mexico during that period, including their most famous battle at camerone. So perhaps the writing is Spanish? I've suggested we try and trace the writing to make it clearer but the old fashioned inscribed writing is making it difficult 

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17 minutes ago, jigsaw said:

Any valuation on it or is it common and not worth a great deal

Think you can pick em up for £100.

Depends on what the inscription means and if it gives it a story 

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13 minutes ago, DIDO.1 said:

Think you can pick em up for £100.

Depends on what the inscription means and if it gives it a story 

My uncle dropped a similar one off at my parents this year ,but it had a crude homemade wooden handle  I had a quick Google an mint one with scabbard was round the £100 mark but most went from £25-75 I sold it to a mate for a tenner I think just to get rid ?

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On 29/10/2022 at 23:26, DIDO.1 said:

Our kid was sweeping someone's chimney when he noticed they had a rather unusual poker for the fire. Turns out to be a french bayonet. 1868 is inscribed on it....along with some writing, presumably in French but we can't make it out as yet. I believe the foreign legion were in Mexico during that period, including their most famous battle at camerone. So perhaps the writing is Spanish? I've suggested we try and trace the writing to make it clearer but the old fashioned inscribed writing is making it difficult 

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engraving says, more d'armes de st etienne janvier 1868. When translated means Manufactured by Arms de St Etienne January 1868.

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