Trainability

[mC HULL 10,580]

I have them walking to heel never had one will watch another dog chase and stay to heel  

[Black neck 15,202]

7 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

I have them walking to heel never had one will watch another dog chase and stay to heel  

Me neither

[TOMO 24,988]

1 hour ago, mC HULL said:

I have them walking to heel never had one will watch another dog chase and stay to heel  

i have...but only whilst lamping rabbits....and when she had got to about 4 year old...took a bit of work to get to that standard though....

[mushroom 12,430]

3 minutes ago, TOMO said:

i have...but only whilst lamping rabbits....and when she had got to about 4 year old...took a bit of work to get to that standard though....

My old dog Trevor instinctively knew which were his runs and weren't. Never pulled, whined or shook. Politest dog I ever had, aside the staffy. He never took his eyes off the beam though, so I never bothered with having him loose when other dogs were running. Better not to put them in a situation where they can fail due to their drive

[mC HULL 10,580]

Me mate had  a Mali x heel  dance on the spot cracking lamper ferreter   

[dogmandont 9,399]

7 hours ago, SheepChaser said:

Thank you. What I’ve found works for me, is to find a dog bred to be hard and gritty which is fast enough and well enough out together to do what I want. Mostly I’ve been shoe horning fox dogs into other rolls, this pup I’ve got is first one that’s been bred with something else in mind originally. I always start at a fox and work backwards. 

Its what I've always done for the simple fact is if it couldn't handle the fox job it wouldn't matter how good it was at anything else it simply wouldn't be staying with me. 

[mC HULL 10,580]

How lads go about entering dog to fox  

[mC HULL 10,580]

Preban for all the activists  

[Black neck 15,202]

3 hours ago, mC HULL said:

How lads go about entering dog to fox  

Plenty of lube

[downsouth 6,859]

8 hours ago, mC HULL said:

How lads go about entering dog to fox  

Plenty of rabbits and stuff that aint gunna bite them back as a youngster to teach them the lamp and how to use their legs.Let them mature then slip em on a fox

[dogmad riley 1,337]

14 hours ago, mC HULL said:

How many lads seen lurchers that will stay when games running until told to go ive seen a couple collies x and Mali x  

Seen one collie x do it. Possibly the best trained lurcher iv ever been out with.  Was never on a slip and told when to go 

He told me it did fox all I seen though was it chasing them, then it mopped hares and rabbit up so I don't think it like fox tbh 

[poxon 5,556]

10 hours ago, mC HULL said:

How lads go about entering dog to fox  

We used to let young uns watch then have a rag a bit then when ready double up as apprentice for a go then on there own I remember once going to give a up an coming young un a hand with the stabber as I thought it was making hard work of it I got a sharp word in my ear...don’t you fecking dare! it’s gotta do em single handed or it’s not staying in the kennels. 
Now days because of how the laws set out with the ban an not keeping dogs just for that job alone an only keep one dog at a time when i think there mentally ready I get a mate go have a look on the beam  use his rifle shoot one an see if there’s any fire in there belly’s for a retrieve got to fully retrieve on its own with no human assistance 

[mC HULL 10,580]

46 minutes ago, poxon said:

We used to let young uns watch then have a rag a bit then when ready double up as apprentice for a go then on there own I remember once going to give a up an coming young un a hand with the stabber as I thought it was making hard work of it I got a sharp word in my ear...don’t you fecking dare! it’s gotta do em single handed or it’s not staying in the kennels. 
Now days because of how the laws set out with the ban an not keeping dogs just for that job alone an only keep one dog at a time when i think there mentally ready I get a mate go have a look on the beam  use his rifle shoot one an see if there’s any fire in there belly’s for a retrieve got to fully retrieve on its own with no human assistance 

That’s how I would do it aswell build confidence dog keen to get involved hold it bk until it’s raring to get off  

[mC HULL 10,580]

3 hours ago, downsouth said:

Plenty of rabbits and stuff that aint gunna bite them back as a youngster to teach them the lamp and how to use their legs.Let them mature then slip em on a fox

So from chasing little rabbits to getting bit off a  fox and been expected to kill it  

can see why you struggle with a fox dog with other breeds  bull terrier easiest to enter that way  

[Saltmoon 2,208]

12 hours ago, mC HULL said:

How lads go about entering dog to fox  

Close your eyes and hope for the best