MagyarAgar

It is like a smaller version of Doberman (45-50 cm to the shoulder). A Doberman can be called Riesenpinscher (Giant Pinscher). They do not have a long history but are probably descendants from farm/carriage dogs. They are mostly watchdogs, but they were also used for ratting and so on. As already said this was an accidental mating. For a lurcher a german pinscher would not be my first choice of breed.

As already said by @two crows it is probably a bad translation from my site. As far is I understand it german hunting law is all about "minimizing" animal cruelty and hunting with lurchers/sighthounds is seen as being really stressful for the quarry (Bow hunting is forbidden because of the same reasoning). That is how I understand the somewhat official reasoning, but take this with a grain of salt as I am no active hunter myself (I do not like shooting) and have my knowledge from active hunters and the internet... In contrast, as fas is I know, falconry and digging is mostly allowed? So hunting dogs are mainly used for retrieving, pointing, flushing, digging, and tracking/trailing a shot but not killed animal. The main reasons I think hunting with lurchers and sighthounds is not allowed is because there is no strong lobby for it.

Thanks jigsaw. I am keenly following the progress of your puppys! I am really considering a kelpie x in the future. Thanks, thats true. There is really a lot of regulation you have to go through to be able to hunt in Germany. And it is mainly geared towards shooting. Using running dogs to hunt is actively discouraged and looked upon as "dirty" hunting. Beware that this is only my personal opinion... Yeah she really is keen on running and chasing, but she also quite bright and learns new things pretty fast. My only personal experience with dogs is with a purebred Whippet and a purebred German Pinscher and so far she is definitely faster and more agile than a pure breed Pinscher. (Thats probably what you would expect from such a cross...)

Hi everybody, I am a long time lurker of this forum and found a lot of good information here. This is my first lurcher pup and I (obviously) think she is coming along nicely. She is a Whippet x German Pinscher (the mating was more of an accident, but I know both parents and they are wonderful). I am from Germany so please beware that I am not allowed to work her here legally... Feel free to ask any questions you might have and have a good day!

So very true, the english translation is not that accurate. They are not "only" pointers, here in Germany they are called "Deutsch Drahthaar" which is a description of their coat, and means german rough coat. And over here they are used and "advertised" as a versatile all purpose hunting dog. I read an article once about the origin of the Drahthaar, the article stated that when they decided on a standard for the breed they decided that only liver and white and liver and tic was acceptable. Any black and white pups were PTS. However the jeagers working in the forestry in Munster asked if they could have the pups as they did not care what the dog looked like as long as they worked. The black and white dogs then went on to become the Large Munsterlander. Just wondering what the truth is? TC I think your are mixing them up with German long haired pointers. I've seen livers turn up in large munsterlander litters, even though breed standard states only black and white. That pup went on to do very well as an all round gun dog too I think so, too. I think, as already said: the GWP, GSP are all purpose hunting dogs. They are not specialists. Another point to consider is that in Germany most GWP, GSP go into working homes, and some breeders do not even consider to give their pups to none working homes. So these breeds have a fairly good working base to start off.

So very true, the english translation is not that accurate. They are not "only" pointers, here in Germany they are called "Deutsch Drahthaar" which is a description of their coat, and means german rough coat. And over here they are used and "advertised" as a versatile all purpose hunting dog.

Do these offer more than the normal husky type then? It depends on the race actually. The pedigree siberian husky or malamute is not used in competitive sleddog racing anymore. For the long distance races, like Iditarod or Yukon Quest, alaskan hounds/huskys rule the pack. Which are a crossbred themselves and most "mushers" have their own recipes (mixes of hounds, huskys and so on). But for the short races(this ranges from 5 km to approximatly 200 km) and 1 to 6 dog classes and bike/scooter/ski jöring the hound types (crosses between greyhound and pointer and the offspring) are much faster. Also for dirt races they offer more heat resistance than the husky type dogs. So in short: They offer more speed on short distances and more heat resistance in hotter weather (which means mostly below 15 °C) I hope that clarified it a bit, I think it got a little bit confusing. But with the most questions there is no definitive yes or no... here is a video of another good musher Igor Tracz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfFvqhOS-HY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNs-O-t20-g

Hi, Greyhound/Pointer crosses are tried and tested in the sleddogsport scene. There they are called greyster or eurohound. But in this sport stamina is more needed than pure speed, therefore the 3/4 pointer 1/4 greyhound or even 7/8 pointer 1/8 greyhound are more popular. half breeds are mostly limited to the sprint races 5 km to max 10 km. but nonetheless here are some pictures of 50% greyhound 50% pointer dogs from the site of lena boysen hillestad. She is a very competitive and succesful athlete. http://www.boysen-hillestad.com/21519928

Some nice photos! Cheers, MagyarAgar

Thats really a nice looking pup! Cheers, MagyarAgar

In the makeup of the Eurohound are certainly Greyhounds and various other hound breeds. Have a look at this page(scroll down) http://www.steelhead.de/html/gth-story.html These are German Trail Hounds very similar to Eurohounds. Cheers, MagyarAgar

really a fine looking animal!

actuallly i am from germany. Hunting with Sighthounds is not allowed in Germany. Hunting in general is under restriction. You need a license and it is pretty expensive. It is a shame because in most areas I have been too there are plenty of rabbits. So bottom line is dont get caught, because it can be really expensive! The Rules are very different from "bundesland" to "bundesland" and even from City to City...

good read, thanks.

really good looking! Would you mind if I ask how big she is and how much she weighs? Cheers, MagyarAgar