South hams hunter 8,837 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 7 hours ago, maxhardcore said: That's what I'm saying. Why be scared to loose that zero. Fury and Wilder wernt' you come again. It looks as if AJ is scared of loosing his zero. Get the big fights on for the fans if you get beat off a better man on the night so what ' re group and come again. Thats my gripe with Hearn and AJ They ripping the fans off when their are cracking fights to be made. The Furys duck no one. Different Class in many ways Thats my last I will just give a Or a ect from now on. lol Neither fury or wilder can offer AJ the right fight, he's the champ so it should be on his terms Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dave88 1,565 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 10 hours ago, sid g said: I bet its bigger and got more lights on it than any fooker else `s off here .. With a little fury on the top 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MickC 1,825 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 (edited) Hard to pick a winner between Wilder and Joshua,both have there merits and flaws,I think its a genuine 50/50 fight.Wilder may be unorthodox but he is easy to hit and Joshua whilst maybe not as big a banger as Wilder certainly punches a lot harder than Fury. I think that's why both there promoters are wanting to do a 2 fight deal now to get the fight made.Joshua has said all along that he wants the Wilder fight for the WBC belt which is the only one he does not have,and although he has had a bit of flak for not fighting Wilder already, thinking about it now,in all fairness the Fury v Wilder score cards show he was probably right to hold back .As for Fury he will be kicking himself now,at least one if not both of those knockdowns could have been avoided if hed stayed focussed instead of show boating but that's how Fury is. jmo Edited December 4, 2018 by MickC 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 24,876 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 best fighter since ali......feck me mate.........must of been after a bite.......furys namesake had better movement than fury.....iron mike in his early days was very hard to hit....so theres one of the top of me head....not to mention the likes of lewis ect.... just a shame fury wasn't given the nod on the night.... and theres no way on earth I'm watching that peter fury clip.....cant stand him 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deker 3,453 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 I've not been paying to much attention to either fighter to be honest, but I think a few people got a bit of a surprise all round and after with this fight! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 24,876 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 best heavyweight then....my apologies for missing out the word heavyweight..... this is where I disagree with you....cos he aint.... like I said earlier I like fury ...and wish he had nocked wilder out.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Just now, maxhardcore said: Heavyweight BOXER Since Ali their hasn't been a Heavyweight BOXER with Furys all round Skillset. And the Boxing World now regognise that We know what you said. It's just not true. An allround skillset would surely include a knockout punch. All of them have strengths and weaknesses. Even your boy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 24,876 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, maxhardcore said: Heavyweight BOXER Since Ali their hasn't been a Heavyweight BOXER with Furys all round Skillset. And the Boxing World now regognise that you can keep repeating mate.....don't make it right........ I just posted two names I think were better....you may not agree but that's my opinion....please don't repeat yourself again ....I read it the first dozen times... holyfield...theres another....... 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 6,570 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, maxhardcore said: Heavyweight BOXER Since Ali their hasn't been a Heavyweight BOXER with Furys all round Skillset. And the Boxing World now regognise that I believe Lennox Lewis would have made short work of Fury. Having said that Fury's comeback after two years out is nothing short of miraculous. I think a lot of his mental health problems stemmed from being brought up to fulfil his father's dreams. No wonder he went on a bender when he finally made his dream come true. I hope he goes on to make a few bob for himself. How he got up from being sparked out and then went on to win the fight is nothing short of miraculous. He should be called Lazarus from now on. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 24,876 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 agreed jukel......hes a talented fella for sure and shown real tuffnes to come back from his issues...like you say his old man living....is the word vicariously through his son..... Lazarus might be a bit strong mind.....lol...his old man would love that... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dogmandont 9,354 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 His mental health issues were caused by taking copious amounts of coke and whiskey. And everyone is supposed to feel sorry for him. . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 24,876 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 you see max that's where we disagree....and I think your very wrong.....iron mike had great footwork..and superb headmovement...the amount of shots that slid past his head in his early fights was something to watch...remember all his fights were against bigger guys with beteer reach....it was imperative to slip that punch and get inside coming forward.... think I will just copy and paste the above ten times so you know I'm right... 2 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 25,266 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, jukel123 said: I believe Lennox Lewis would have made short work of Fury. Having said that Fury's comeback after two years out is nothing short of miraculous. I think a lot of his mental health problems stemmed from being brought up to fulfil his father's dreams. No wonder he went on a bender when he finally made his dream come true. I hope he goes on to make a few bob for himself. How he got up from being sparked out and then went on to win the fight is nothing short of miraculous. He should be called Lazarus from now on. Think the tons of disco dust going up his hooter had more to do with his mental health issues than pier pressure, but it's so much more PC nowadays to openly admit you had mental health issues than the fact your a gear head and the gear you thought you had under control is now controlling you, wait for the return of ant from ant and dick, off his tits at 8am crashed into a car containing a baby but he will also rise like a Phoenix from the ash,s of depression, standard get out clause among the rich and famous, and for MAX I,ve liked fury from his very first fight but putting him in a hall of fame for beating/drawing with one of the most unskilled paper champions (wilder) of the last twenty years is a little to far, there are no real greats around for him to beat and the last one he did (vlad) was the wrong side of 35 and going to loose his crown soon regardless of who he fought, he,s in the wrong era for greatness as there are no greats out there to beat 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Thing is Max, all this is your opinion. Fury is ok but he isn't the greatest since Ali. FACT. I've said fact now, so that's an end to it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,594 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 2 hours ago, MickC said: Hard to pick a winner between Wilder and Joshua,both have there merits and flaws,I think its a genuine 50/50 fight.Wilder may be unorthodox but he is easy to hit and Joshua whilst maybe not as big a banger as Wilder certainly punches a lot harder than Fury. I think that's why both there promoters are wanting to do a 2 fight deal now to get the fight made.Joshua has said all along that he wants the Wilder fight for the WBC belt which is the only one he does not have,and although he has had a bit of flak for not fighting Wilder already, thinking about it now,in all fairness the Fury v Wilder score cards show he was probably right to hold back .As for Fury he will be kicking himself now,at least one if not both of those knockdowns could have been avoided if hed stayed focussed instead of show boating but that's how Fury is. jmo good thread mick, i think if they do fight and Aj keeps a good defence like he can , stops wilder onslaught , and counters he have enough power to KO wilder, but you right one punch from either will finish the fight . and your right fury had the fight there to win deff , hhe out boxed wilder we all could see that, but showboating not a thing to do with bloke like wilder he was only wating for a opening and he took it great round 9 and round 12 . lets be honest any boxer goes on the deck twice , got turn the fight from him , it dont matter what the other rounds were , and over there in yank land they look at that big time , yeh if he had kept to his fight plane he have brought the belt back here and fight Aj in April , now have to wait his turn and poss fight the winner of them 2. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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