Neobliviscaris1776 1,998 Posted April 29, 2017 Report Share Posted April 29, 2017 Correct! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
.357shooter 993 Posted April 29, 2017 Report Share Posted April 29, 2017 there is no god.to prove it if he was all knowing and all he would not let us be in the shit we are now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lid 194 Posted April 29, 2017 Report Share Posted April 29, 2017 God and evolution are not mutually exclusive at all. The linear progression of time is not an obstacle for any higher existence and would be as freely traversed as up and down, or left and right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
king 11,664 Posted April 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2017 Francie fair play to you. All the things I have fired at you today you have come up with something to counter them. I'm out of ideas mate. Ok if the world is 6000yrs old. Why are we being told it's 4.5 billion. And why are people having these jobs and spending a lifetime researching the age of the world. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 I can't believe I've missed a geology related topic lol, The Earth is 4.6 billion years old the science is as good as it gets, I can dig out my books for anyone who is interested. You can still be a scientist and have religious beliefs though, the bible was written by people who were trying to make sense of the world but that doesn't mean that there isn't a god. The way I look at it is that the Universe is apparently infinite, time could be infinite as well...does that not mean there could be infinite possibilities? Even if God doesn't exist I think the benefits of Christianity on our society are far far greater than if it didn't exist, it is one of the cornerstones of our society and traditions and it shouldn't be treated with disdain. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,362 Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Francie fair play to you. All the things I have fired at you today you have come up with something to counter them. I'm out of ideas mate. Ok if the world is 6000yrs old. Why are we being told it's 4.5 billion. And why are people having these jobs and spending a lifetime researching the age of the world. Do you want to go down a rabbit hole mate lol The reasons are for another topic? Enjoying this one myself, no shitetalk, nice an civil. Thanks mate, im just repeating what i read? 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,362 Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 I can't believe I've missed a geology related topic lol, The Earth is 4.6 billion years old the science is as good as it gets, I can dig out my books for anyone who is interested. You can still be a scientist and have religious beliefs though, the bible was written by people who were trying to make sense of the world but that doesn't mean that there isn't a god. The way I look at it is that the Universe is apparently infinite, time could be infinite as well...does that not mean there could be infinite possibilities? Even if God doesn't exist I think the benefits of Christianity on our society are far far greater than if it didn't exist, it is one of the cornerstones of our society and traditions and it shouldn't be treated with disdain. Get your books out nik lol Im sorry to tell you but the they knew plenty, as i stated before, alot of science in there that scientists only found out recently. Sorry to pish on your chips, but you mustnt have done your homework mate, lol already been proven that the universe an time has a beginning, but nice words on the latter mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxdropper 17,092 Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 People that suffer are in Gods hands mate, our bodies are are temporary vessels, our soul an spirit beongs with the lord eternally in his presence. But in saying that the lord already thought of this, he has provided our food an medicine in the natural habitat, if only the knowledge wasnt suppressed. This is the part I have major issues with .As a school kid I had an enquiring mind as most did and I remember asking our RE teacher the same question about suffering and she gave exact same quote .I'm guessing that's a quote from the book or near as . It doesn't add up that a creator would allow suffering of any sort on the scale it happens. The talk of heaven and hell was one that could never be justified to my way of thinking . It was a clever scribe that told us our soul ascends up to heaven to be with our creator as no one can verify or disprove it but a logical mind says this doesn't happen ,one life, live it . Evolution has given us the power of mind to overthink too deeply what is actually happening I beleive only that we are born ,we live we die and our bodies return to the earth, anything beyond that dies with us. Religion is a dying belief in this country for a reason ,we no longer wish to be brain washed by those whose only agenda is to oppress and control the way we think as the church has done for millenia . No heaven, no hell ,just the here and now ,make the most of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,362 Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 People that suffer are in Gods hands mate, our bodies are are temporary vessels, our soul an spirit beongs with the lord eternally in his presence. But in saying that the lord already thought of this, he has provided our food an medicine in the natural habitat, if only the knowledge wasnt suppressed. This is the part I have major issues with .As a school kid I had an enquiring mind as most did and I remember asking our RE teacher the same question about suffering and she gave exact same quote .I'm guessing that's a quote from the book or near as . It doesn't add up that a creator would allow suffering of any sort on the scale it happens. The talk of heaven and hell was one that could never be justified to my way of thinking . It was a clever scribe that told us our soul ascends up to heaven to be with our creator as no one can verify or disprove it but a logical mind says this doesn't happen ,one life, live it . Evolution has given us the power of mind to overthink too deeply what is actually happening I beleive only that we are born ,we live we die and our bodies return to the earth, anything beyond that dies with us. Religion is a dying belief in this country for a reason ,we no longer wish to be brain washed by those whose only agenda is to oppress and control the way we think as the church has done for millenia . No heaven, no hell ,just the here and now ,make the most of it. Thanks for your honesty mate, its good to hear other side, i know what your saying about people being sick an you expect God to intervene, its hard to explain because the emotional side, as i said before i understand completley peoplrs feelings, i watched me ma suffer for thirty years, but still have my faith, an so did my mum, so i guess i dont hold God responsible but it looks like you do, but i understand completley mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,392 Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Im sorry but ???????????? If you believe any of the shoite Francie has posted you're numbskulls. It is seriously laughable and everything he has put is bollocks. The pyroclastic flows of Mt Helena did produce canyons, however they only cut into the sediment. Revealing hundreds of thousands of years of sedimentation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,362 Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Im sorry but ???????????? If you believe any of the shoite Francie has posted you're numbskulls. It is seriously laughable and everything he has put is bollocks. The pyroclastic flows of Mt Helena did produce canyons, however they only cut into the sediment. Revealing hundreds of thousands of years of sedimentation. Haha ok mush, people beleive facts an evidences not slabbering bud. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,362 Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Im sorry but ???????????? If you believe any of the shoite Francie has posted you're numbskulls. It is seriously laughable and everything he has put is bollocks. The pyroclastic flows of Mt Helena did produce canyons, however they only cut into the sediment. Revealing hundreds of thousands of years of sedimentation. Your not making sense mush, whats your point lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxdropper 17,092 Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 People that suffer are in Gods hands mate, our bodies are are temporary vessels, our soul an spirit beongs with the lord eternally in his presence. But in saying that the lord already thought of this, he has provided our food an medicine in the natural habitat, if only the knowledge wasnt suppressed. This is the part I have major issues with .As a school kid I had an enquiring mind as most did and I remember asking our RE teacher the same question about suffering and she gave exact same quote .I'm guessing that's a quote from the book or near as . It doesn't add up that a creator would allow suffering of any sort on the scale it happens. The talk of heaven and hell was one that could never be justified to my way of thinking . It was a clever scribe that told us our soul ascends up to heaven to be with our creator as no one can verify or disprove it but a logical mind says this doesn't happen ,one life, live it . Evolution has given us the power of mind to overthink too deeply what is actually happening I beleive only that we are born ,we live we die and our bodies return to the earth, anything beyond that dies with us. Religion is a dying belief in this country for a reason ,we no longer wish to be brain washed by those whose only agenda is to oppress and control the way we think as the church has done for millenia . No heaven, no hell ,just the here and now ,make the most of it. Thanks for your honesty mate, its good to hear other side, i know what your saying about people being sick an you expect God to intervene, its hard to explain because the emotional side, as i said before i understand completley peoplrs feelings, i watched me ma suffer for thirty years, but still have my faith, an so did my mum, so i guess i dont hold God responsible but it looks like you do, but i understand completley mate. How can I hold any god responsible when I believe there is no such thing ,lol.Natural selection mate ,no more no less . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,362 Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 People that suffer are in Gods hands mate, our bodies are are temporary vessels, our soul an spirit beongs with the lord eternally in his presence. But in saying that the lord already thought of this, he has provided our food an medicine in the natural habitat, if only the knowledge wasnt suppressed. This is the part I have major issues with .As a school kid I had an enquiring mind as most did and I remember asking our RE teacher the same question about suffering and she gave exact same quote .I'm guessing that's a quote from the book or near as . It doesn't add up that a creator would allow suffering of any sort on the scale it happens. The talk of heaven and hell was one that could never be justified to my way of thinking . It was a clever scribe that told us our soul ascends up to heaven to be with our creator as no one can verify or disprove it but a logical mind says this doesn't happen ,one life, live it . Evolution has given us the power of mind to overthink too deeply what is actually happening I beleive only that we are born ,we live we die and our bodies return to the earth, anything beyond that dies with us. Religion is a dying belief in this country for a reason ,we no longer wish to be brain washed by those whose only agenda is to oppress and control the way we think as the church has done for millenia . No heaven, no hell ,just the here and now ,make the most of it. Thanks for your honesty mate, its good to hear other side, i know what your saying about people being sick an you expect God to intervene, its hard to explain because the emotional side, as i said before i understand completley peoplrs feelings, i watched me ma suffer for thirty years, but still have my faith, an so did my mum, so i guess i dont hold God responsible but it looks like you do, but i understand completley mate.How can I hold any god responsible when I believe there is no such thing ,lol.Natural selection mate ,no more no less . Not been funny mate but have you actually seen natural selectiin, it selects mate it doesnt create lok Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,362 Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 https://youtu.be/FzidprHbNUs King mind that question you asked me earlier, well heres a vid for kids, 14 yrolds, none other than the big evoloution man, bill nye, hes an engineer not even a scientist, but hes really an actor an a pervert. This is disgusting an kids shout not be watching, but hey ho its evoloution, theres no God crack on with our defilement of childrens minds.https://youtu.be/FzidprHbNUs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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