WILF 53,340 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, Halfhound said: 100% agree WILF can’t argue with that. 100 men of 60 from South Armagh would more than likely give a better account of themselves. They should start planning to get out of there by the looks of things. I think it’s time for the rest of the world to step back. Cut all financial and military aid to Isreal and whoever is backing Iran and its allies to do the same. Let them take their gloves off ring the bell and let them at it and to the victor the spoils. I think without all the money and weapons Isreal is being provided with we would see a different story play out. Fair 2 hours ago, Halfhound said: I reckon these Iranians could be good lads to scrap and fight like gutter rats I don’t think they’ll lie down any time soon. They’ve been bombed to bits and are still willing and able. Have the Israelis really been tested yet? I think this go’s to the crux of what lads like me have been saying for years…..you won’t reason with these people, they won’t respond to kindness or bribes or airy fairy western ideas of “tolerance” As a collective, the west just don’t understand these people….like everywhere else in the world they have a cultural and genetic disposition to certain things built up over millennia……our trouble is, we want to treat everyone like Europeans. These people will never give in, they only understand death…..that’s why in their culture the most ruthless bloke with the biggest f***ing stick is always in charge !! Now wether we want to say “fair play to them” or whatever, yeah, I can say fair play but I also understand that it’s not really, it’s just how they are. If we think the ones we have invited into our own house are any different just for being here then we better think again ! These people are rattlesnakes and you can’t reason with rattlesnakes as we are finding out….you just have to cut their heads off. Like the parable of the lion who eats his friend and helper the monkey, when asked why he just says “Because it’s in my nature” If you want a clue as to why these people don’t lay down, there it is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 30,208 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 4 minutes ago, mC HULL said: Who's GPS do they use ? Who's weapons ? Who's planes ? What’s that got to do with the fact America hasn’t supported isreal in every war. Why do you deflect all the time ? Isreal uses American , British and other countries weapons technologies but has an envious military industrial complex of its own. Cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 18,591 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 3 minutes ago, chartpolski said: What’s that got to do with the fact America hasn’t supported isreal in every war. Why do you deflect all the time ? Isreal uses American , British and other countries weapons technologies but has an envious military industrial complex of its own. Cheers Have they allowed them.to.use GPS? If so they have supported them mate Fact Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 18,591 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) Born Hunter am i right or wrong Edited 2 hours ago by mC HULL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 18,591 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 17 minutes ago, WILF said: Fair I think this go’s to the crux of what lads like me have been saying for years…..you won’t reason with these people, they won’t respond to kindness or bribes or airy fairy western ideas of “tolerance” As a collective, the west just don’t understand these people….like everywhere else in the world they have a cultural and genetic disposition to certain things built up over millennia……our trouble is, we want to treat everyone like Europeans. These people will never give in, they only understand death…..that’s why in their culture the most ruthless bloke with the biggest f***ing stick is always in charge !! Now wether we want to say “fair play to them” or whatever, yeah, I can say fair play but I also understand that it’s not really, it’s just how they are. If we think the ones we have invited into our own house are any different just for being here then we better think again ! These people are rattlesnakes and you can’t reason with rattlesnakes as we are finding out….you just have to cut their heads off. Like the parable of the lion who eats his friend and helper the monkey, when asked why he just says “Because it’s in my nature” If you want a clue as to why these people don’t lay down, there it is. Wow theres so.much irony in there mate its not even funny I dont know were to.start lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 30,208 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 12 minutes ago, WILF said: Like the parable of the lion who eats his friend and helper the monkey, when asked why he just says “Because it’s in my nature” If you want a clue as to why these people don’t lay down, there it is. I thought you were going to tell the one about the monkey and the hyena walking through the jungle when a lion jumps out and sets about the hyena. The monkey shoots off up a tree and the lion kills the hyena. The lion looks up at the monkey and asks; “ why didn’t you help your pal, the hyena ?”. The monkey replies; “he was laughing that much, I thought he was winning !”. Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 18,163 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 4 minutes ago, WILF said: Fair I think this go’s to the crux of what lads like me have been saying for years…..you won’t reason with these people, they won’t respond to kindness or bribes or airy fairy western ideas of “tolerance” As a collective, the west just don’t understand these people….like everywhere else in the world they have a cultural and genetic disposition to certain things built up over millennia……our trouble is, we want to treat everyone like Europeans. These people will never give in, they only understand death…..that’s why in their culture the most ruthless bloke with the biggest f***ing stick is always in charge !! Now wether we want to say “fair play to them” or whatever, yeah, I can say fair play but I also understand that it’s not really, it’s just how they are. If we think the ones we have invited into our own house are any different just for being here then we better think again ! These people are rattlesnakes and you can’t reason with rattlesnakes as we are finding out….you just have to cut their heads off. Like the parable of the lion who eats his friend and helper the monkey, when asked why he just says “Because it’s in my nature” If you want a clue as to why these people don’t lay down, there it is. So I guess the logical conclusion to that is all out total war until one side is annihilated? When you say “these people” do you include Arabs in that too or just Iranians? If so then do we declare war on the Arab gulf states too and just be done with it? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 18,591 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, Greyman said: FairPlay kid you ain’t stopping are you , It’s just embarrassing mate nothing more nothing less your mouth is running twice as fast as your brain and im actually cringing for you but you just keep going please have a brew read back some of your madness posts ( one of my faves the women and children of Iran are standing on bridges and by power plants out of love for there leaders ) I know a few Persians that would probably put you in a hole on the ground for such nonsense get a grip They'd do.f**k all when the time come they ran lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waltjnr 8,715 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 8 minutes ago, mC HULL said: Have they allowed them.to.use GPS? If so they have supported them mate Fact I thought they used WAZE? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 18,591 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: So I guess the logical conclusion to that is all out total war until one side is annihilated? When you say “these people” do you include Arabs in that too or just Iranians? If so then do we declare war on the Arab gulf states too and just be done with it? Class how most think when any normal person with a brain would say logical conclusion Stop treating them like out just leave them be stop bombing them taking there shit and get out the middle east leave it to them ? Imagine that lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 18,591 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, waltjnr said: I thought they used WAZE? ? Don't know what it is mate the chinky version iran have been using ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 18,163 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 7 minutes ago, mC HULL said: Born Hunter am i right or wrong GPS is a free use GNSS constellation. But there are like half a dozen others too. Not to mention other positioning and guidance technologies. GPS is probably a bad example. Having the US as a big supporter of arms is a big benefit but I wouldn’t go so far as to say Israel would be wiped out in a day without them. There is a domestic arms industry and other suppliers. For example had they not bought F35s they could’ve bought Typhoons, Rafales or Gripens. Same for most all other systems, strike missiles, air defence systems. Theyd be in a weaker position but then there current position is one of dominance. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 18,591 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago Just now, Born Hunter said: GPS is a free use GNSS constellation. But there are like half a dozen others too. Not to mention other positioning and guidance technologies. GPS is probably a bad example. Having the US as a big supporter of arms is a big benefit but I wouldn’t go so far as to say Israel would be wiped out in a day without them. There is a domestic arms industry and other suppliers. For example had they not bought F35s they could’ve bought Typhoons, Rafales or Gripens. Same for most all other systems, strike missiles, air defence systems. Theyd be in a weaker position but then there current position is one of dominance. I mean the GPS for the bombs if thats what its called ? The yanks turn it off for anyone there bombing but I read the chinks have one the Iranians are using its why its been so easy to hit bases in the Middle east for them ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Halfhound 1,243 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, mC HULL said: I mean the GPS for the bombs if thats what its called ? The yanks turn it off for anyone there bombing but I read the chinks have one the Iranians are using its why its been so easy to hit bases in the Middle east for them ? Your a gas ticket 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 30,208 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 6 minutes ago, mC HULL said: Have they allowed them.to.use GPS? If so they have supported them mate Fact Where do you think we get our F35’s from ? Are you seriously suggesting that a country of five million people can produce every part of their military needs ? The UK has 70 odd million people and still relies on other countries technologies. Russia gets technology and equipment from China, Iran, North Korea, I doubt there’s a country in the world that doesn’t import technology. China does it by reverse engineering, but no country with a modern military is self sufficient in technology. Saudi is almost totally reliant on imported technologies, why should isreal be any different ? Cheers. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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