Trump Under Fire

[mC HULL 18,587]

8 minutes ago, WILF said:

War of attrition ??!!!???!!…..it’s been 39 days !!!

I bet you’ve been on walks that lasted longer than 39 days mate ! lol 

Exactly Iran have beaten them.in 39 days by cutting the straight more than one way to.skin a cat .

Planes and bombs mean f**k all when allies are going mental.

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7 minutes ago, greg64 said:

he didn't ever mention nuclear weapons though did he, that's the media jumping on his speech which admittedly did sound a tad apocalyptic and the US govt has said that Nukes were not being referenced

People knew what he meant how about now get into isreal and take there illegally held nukes ?

[chartpolski 30,193]

Still a lot more to come out, but it looks like the huge US build up in the region of men and matériels and the movement of aircraft into the area, along with the Americans bombing three bridges and a power plant yesterday, convinced China and India that Trump was serious.

China and India are massively dependent on Irans oil and were suffering economically like the rest of us , so China has told Iran take the cease fire and open up the Strait, as if American did “bomb Iran back to the Stone Age” it would be catastrophic for chinas economy.

A big game of bluff to see who blinked first ? 
Who knows, but the Strait is open today , the price of oil has fallen dramatically and the stock markets are up.

Lets see what happens if some rogue IRGC General decides to start throwing missiles about again.

I think there’s still a long way to go.

Cheers.

 

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3 minutes ago, WILF said:

The first rule of McHull club is that McHull is always right !……right !!! 

Was i ?

[WILF 53,331]

1 minute ago, mC HULL said:

Was i ?

No ! lol 

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There's  none as blind as them that wont see lol 

 

[TRUEBRIT66 2,526]

4 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

No mate I wanted trump and his people to be in power a long time yet but hes fall into this shite were be couldnt win and will.vome.out looking foolish 

Iran was never a threat ever hes done it for Israel like a fool

In your opinion I presume ?

And Iran not a threat, may be not so much now the USA has bombed them but they have the 3rd biggest oil reserves in the world and at this moment in time oil=power.

Again the Ayatollahs arent interested in economies, the growth of there country or the welfare of its people, it wants the death and complete annihilation of the West. On that basis Im comfortable with pre-emptive strikes to stop them gaining the upper hand.      

Anyone who thinks Trump is running the show single handed is a fool. If his advisors thought his actions were genuinely threatening the USA direct he wouldn't last 5 minute POTUS or not. 

 

 

[greg64 3,191]

6 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

Still a lot more to come out, but it looks like the huge US build up in the region of men and matériels and the movement of aircraft into the area, along with the Americans bombing three bridges and a power plant yesterday, convinced China and India that Trump was serious.

China and India are massively dependent on Irans oil and were suffering economically like the rest of us , so China has told Iran take the cease fire and open up the Strait, as if American did “bomb Iran back to the Stone Age” it would be catastrophic for chinas economy.

A big game of bluff to see who blinked first ? 
Who knows, but the Strait is open today , the price of oil has fallen dramatically and the stock markets are up.

Lets see what happens if some rogue IRGC General decides to start throwing missiles about again.

I think there’s still a long way to go.

Cheers.

 

yesterday they also bombed the irgc air force head quarters, a space research center ,the aviation industries organisation building,  3 airports ' Shiraz petrochemicals complex, two ship building companies, the  irgc police head quarters, kharg island   ,10 railway bridges missile bases in the mount saffa area AND ALL THE WHILE TRUMP WAS ON A BALCONY WITH THE EASTER BUNNY

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have iran come.out of this stronger in a better position ? 

 

Did america beg plead for help and got left to it by there allies? 

 

[TRUEBRIT66 2,526]

18 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

have iran come.out of this stronger in a better position ? 

 

Did america beg plead for help and got left to it by there allies? 

 

Irans army was ranked globally as 16th in the world.

Since the USA has bombed them they 40 senior commanders were killed within hours causing a military vaccum, the air force has been destroyed and America have complete control of the airspace.

The navy is destroyed, The Shahid Bagheri was reduced to a smoking shell within minutes, and the Makran is still burning at its pier in Bandar Abbas. Of the six Jamaran-class frigates, two have been destroyed and another two or three have been heavily damaged. The Fateh, the only modern submarine of its class, has also been destroyed. 

40% of the missile stash, communications Infrastructure, command centres and factories have been destroyed.    

Yep sounds like they are doing great!

Funny how people see things. I felt Trumps request for involvement from its allies was more of a call for moral support rather than full on military support and too ascertain from his perspective who he could rely on.  

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5 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

Irans army was ranked globally as 16th in the world.

Since the USA has bombed them they 40 senior commanders were killed within hours causing a military vaccum, the air force has been destroyed and America have complete control of the airspace.

The navy is destroyed, The Shahid Bagheri was reduced to a smoking shell within minutes, and the Makran is still burning at its pier in Bandar Abbas. Of the six Jamaran-class frigates, two have been destroyed and another two or three have been heavily damaged. The Fateh, the only modern submarine of its class, has also been destroyed. 

40% of the missile stash, communications Infrastructure, command centres and factories have been destroyed.    

Yep sounds like they are doing great!

Funny how people see things. I felt Trumps request for involvement from its allies was more of a call for moral support rather than full on military support and too ascertain from his perspective who he could rely on.  

And yet they cant control the straight of hormuz lol

[TRUEBRIT66 2,526]

1 minute ago, mC HULL said:

And yet they cant control the straight of hormuz lol

I think the Insurance companies are calling the shots on that one in all fairness coupled with the inability and cowardice of governments like ours to protect the ships, hence Trump calling on its allies for assistance.  

 

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8 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

I think the Insurance companies are calling the shots on that one in all fairness coupled with the inability and cowardice of governments like ours to protect the ships, hence Trump calling on its allies for assistance.  

 

Blinder from Iran beat the greatest military ever tbrew insurance company's and weak leaders 

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What we learned this week its easier to go to the moon on a firework then it is to  take he Strait of hormuz off of iran 

[TRUEBRIT66 2,526]

On another point concerning potential attacks on the UK if we get involved with 20 IRGC terrorist attacks being thwarted in this country I checked some stats. It looks like ICE detained and deported over 800 Iranians leading up to June 2025, if only our government took a leaf out of the USA's book we may be a little bit more inclined to assist the USA ?