What Does Being British Mean To You?

[WILF 44,387]

Potato famine. lol

 

Sorry Jonjon79......you put Irish and British in the same sentence there. You must have made a typo.

Most people in Britain have no idea what the famine was or what it actually meant.

A million + starved to death and the same again having to emigrate.......they dont know about any of that.

It means nothing if you don't explain mate

[jetro 5,349]

Did the potatoe blight not effect main land Britain as it did Ireland. Also why would they not know the history. It was a part of the British Isles history.

At j

[gnasher16 29,678]

so i will ask the un answered question again,,,,what about those people with mixed ethinc back ground ,,,at what point in the dilution,,to they become british??

If you cross a Larbrador with a Poodle at what point in the dilution does it become a pure Labrador ?......the real answer is never it will always be a mongrel.

 

The trick is to convince as many people as possible that a " Labradoodle " is infact a new pure breed............hence this new human breed we hear called " mixed race ".

Edited March 24, 2017 by gnasher16

[Welsh_red 4,313]

Did the potatoe blight not effect main land Britain as it did Ireland. Also why would they not know the history. It was a part of the British Isles history.

At j

Can only speak for myself but our history classes in school were crap. Nothing about modern history just about castles etc

[Jonjon79 13,344]

Potato famine. lol

 

Sorry Jonjon79......you put Irish and British in the same sentence there. You must have made a typo.

No typo mate, we're all the same in this little corner of the world.

[TOMO 24,910]

 

so i will ask the un answered question again,,,,what about those people with mixed ethinc back ground ,,,at what point in the dilution,,to they become british??

If you cross a Larbrador with a Poodle at what point in the dilution does it become a pure Labrador ?......the real answer is never it will always be a mongrel.

 

The trick is to convince as many people as possible that a " Labradoodle " is infact a new pure breed............hence this new human breed we hear called " mixed race ".

 

 

my point is gnash,,,,there are many people out there with a none white ansester,,,very often in the old days covered up,,,so you might have someone with a great great grand parant thats black or asian,,,,it wouldnt stop you being english....there were lots that came back from the colonies with a half cast kid back in the 18th and 19th century .....and also lets be mindfull,,,that most of us are unable to trace our family history back much further than the 18th century,,,and even if we can,,,its just a name on paper,,,no pics so you can see what they look like

 

i dowt theres any breed of dog out there gnash without somthing else in its make up,,,so thats not the best analogy ,,,

[greg64 2,572]

the welsh are the true pure Britons according to research .scientists were able to trace there dna back to the first tribes to that settle in the british isles after the last ice age over 10,000 years ago

[Born Hunter 17,639]

 

 

so i will ask the un answered question again,,,,what about those people with mixed ethinc back ground ,,,at what point in the dilution,,to they become british??

If you cross a Larbrador with a Poodle at what point in the dilution does it become a pure Labrador ?......the real answer is never it will always be a mongrel.

 

The trick is to convince as many people as possible that a " Labradoodle " is infact a new pure breed............hence this new human breed we hear called " mixed race ".

 

 

my point is gnash,,,,there are many people out there with a none white ansester,,,very often in the old days covered up,,,so you might have someone with a great great grand parant thats black or asian,,,,it wouldnt stop you being english....there were lots that came back from the colonies with a half cast kid back in the 18th and 19th century .....and also lets be mindfull,,,that most of us are unable to trace our family history back much further than the 18th century,,,and even if we can,,,its just a name on paper,,,no pics so you can see what they look like

 

i dowt theres any breed of dog out there gnash without somthing else in its make up,,,so thats not the best analogy ,,,

 

 

 

Fact is it's f***ing hard to define any biological population precisely so saying 'pure this and pure that' has to be taken with the understanding that it's a bit of a fuzzy topic.

 

Now apparently I've got a bit of Mediterranean blood in me, Spanish/Italian/Greece, only a bit but I'd hardly class them as the same as what I would consider 'pure' English. So I'm not English? Bollocks, any race or sub species or whatever isn't a precisely identifiable thing. It's a collection of individuals that on average are identifiably different to other groups. On the individual level there is mixing with other races/subspecies that is folded back into the core of the population. Like in the historical examples you have given and like in the example of myself. This can happen at geographical 'contact zones' or through historical migration/raiding/trading etc.

 

The term 'pure' is a bit of a slippery one.

Edited March 24, 2017 by Born Hunter

[greg64 2,572]

 

 

 

so i will ask the un answered question again,,,,what about those people with mixed ethinc back ground ,,,at what point in the dilution,,to they become british??

If you cross a Larbrador with a Poodle at what point in the dilution does it become a pure Labrador ?......the real answer is never it will always be a mongrel.

 

The trick is to convince as many people as possible that a " Labradoodle " is infact a new pure breed............hence this new human breed we hear called " mixed race ".

 

 

my point is gnash,,,,there are many people out there with a none white ansester,,,very often in the old days covered up,,,so you might have someone with a great great grand parant thats black or asian,,,,it wouldnt stop you being english....there were lots that came back from the colonies with a half cast kid back in the 18th and 19th century .....and also lets be mindfull,,,that most of us are unable to trace our family history back much further than the 18th century,,,and even if we can,,,its just a name on paper,,,no pics so you can see what they look like

 

i dowt theres any breed of dog out there gnash without somthing else in its make up,,,so thats not the best analogy ,,,

 

 

 

Fact is it's f***ing hard to define any biological population precisely so saying 'pure this and pure that' has to be taken with the understanding that it's a bit of a fuzzy topic.

 

Now apparently I've got a bit of Mediterranean blood in me, Spanish/Italian/Greece, only a bit but I'd hardly class them as the same as what I would consider 'pure' English. So I'm not English? Bollocks, any race or sub species or whatever isn't a precisely identifiable thing. It's a collection of individuals that on average are identifiably different to other groups. On the individual level there is mixing with other races/subspecies that is folded back into the core of the population. Like in the historical examples you have given and like in the example of myself. This can happen at geographical 'contact zones' or through historical migration/raiding/trading etc.

 

The term 'pure' is a bit of a slippery one.

 

that's very true we are a mongrel nation your Mediterranean blood might have come from the romans who surprisingly did not leave a big dna fingerprint on Britain considering they were here for 400 years same with the Vikings but a lot of Britons are made up of French dna from before the norman conquest

[Born Hunter 17,639]

 

 

 

 

so i will ask the un answered question again,,,,what about those people with mixed ethinc back ground ,,,at what point in the dilution,,to they become british??

If you cross a Larbrador with a Poodle at what point in the dilution does it become a pure Labrador ?......the real answer is never it will always be a mongrel.

 

The trick is to convince as many people as possible that a " Labradoodle " is infact a new pure breed............hence this new human breed we hear called " mixed race ".

 

 

my point is gnash,,,,there are many people out there with a none white ansester,,,very often in the old days covered up,,,so you might have someone with a great great grand parant thats black or asian,,,,it wouldnt stop you being english....there were lots that came back from the colonies with a half cast kid back in the 18th and 19th century .....and also lets be mindfull,,,that most of us are unable to trace our family history back much further than the 18th century,,,and even if we can,,,its just a name on paper,,,no pics so you can see what they look like

 

i dowt theres any breed of dog out there gnash without somthing else in its make up,,,so thats not the best analogy ,,,

 

 

 

Fact is it's f***ing hard to define any biological population precisely so saying 'pure this and pure that' has to be taken with the understanding that it's a bit of a fuzzy topic.

 

Now apparently I've got a bit of Mediterranean blood in me, Spanish/Italian/Greece, only a bit but I'd hardly class them as the same as what I would consider 'pure' English. So I'm not English? Bollocks, any race or sub species or whatever isn't a precisely identifiable thing. It's a collection of individuals that on average are identifiably different to other groups. On the individual level there is mixing with other races/subspecies that is folded back into the core of the population. Like in the historical examples you have given and like in the example of myself. This can happen at geographical 'contact zones' or through historical migration/raiding/trading etc.

 

The term 'pure' is a bit of a slippery one.

 

that's very true we are a mongrel nation your Mediterranean blood might have come from the romans who surprisingly did not leave a big dna fingerprint on Britain considering they were here for 400 years same with the Vikings but a lot of Britons are made up of French dna from before the norman conquest

 

 

Yeah maybe or maybe it's just from some great great great great (etc) grandparent of mixed med' blood who travelled here on a trade ship or durring a war.

 

Interestingly the majority of my blood is West European and Scandinavian.

 

Point I'm getting at, as you know, is that it's all a bit statistical, race isn't as quantifiable as some would have you believe. That's not to say I follow the modern mantra of "race is a social construct" because plainly that is bollocks.

Edited March 24, 2017 by Born Hunter

[greg64 2,572]

 

 

 

 

 

so i will ask the un answered question again,,,,what about those people with mixed ethinc back ground ,,,at what point in the dilution,,to they become british??

If you cross a Larbrador with a Poodle at what point in the dilution does it become a pure Labrador ?......the real answer is never it will always be a mongrel.

 

The trick is to convince as many people as possible that a " Labradoodle " is infact a new pure breed............hence this new human breed we hear called " mixed race ".

 

 

my point is gnash,,,,there are many people out there with a none white ansester,,,very often in the old days covered up,,,so you might have someone with a great great grand parant thats black or asian,,,,it wouldnt stop you being english....there were lots that came back from the colonies with a half cast kid back in the 18th and 19th century .....and also lets be mindfull,,,that most of us are unable to trace our family history back much further than the 18th century,,,and even if we can,,,its just a name on paper,,,no pics so you can see what they look like

 

i dowt theres any breed of dog out there gnash without somthing else in its make up,,,so thats not the best analogy ,,,

 

 

 

Fact is it's f***ing hard to define any biological population precisely so saying 'pure this and pure that' has to be taken with the understanding that it's a bit of a fuzzy topic.

 

Now apparently I've got a bit of Mediterranean blood in me, Spanish/Italian/Greece, only a bit but I'd hardly class them as the same as what I would consider 'pure' English. So I'm not English? Bollocks, any race or sub species or whatever isn't a precisely identifiable thing. It's a collection of individuals that on average are identifiably different to other groups. On the individual level there is mixing with other races/subspecies that is folded back into the core of the population. Like in the historical examples you have given and like in the example of myself. This can happen at geographical 'contact zones' or through historical migration/raiding/trading etc.

 

The term 'pure' is a bit of a slippery one.

 

that's very true we are a mongrel nation your Mediterranean blood might have come from the romans who surprisingly did not leave a big dna fingerprint on Britain considering they were here for 400 years same with the Vikings but a lot of Britons are made up of French dna from before the norman conquest

 

 

Yeah maybe or maybe it's just from some great great great great (etc) grandparent of mixed med' blood who travelled here on a trade ship or durring a war.

 

Interestingly the majority of my blood is West European and Scandinavian.

 

Point I'm getting at, as you know, is that it's all a bit statistical, race isn't as quantifiable as some would have you believe. That's not to say I follow the modern mantra of "race is a social construct" because plainly that is bollocks.

 

 

absolutely

[Accip74 7,112]

Mixed race??

 

;-)

Edited March 24, 2017 by Accip74

[TOMO 24,910]

shes cute mate,,,obviously from the french dna...

[Born Hunter 17,639]

Definitely got African in him, no table manners!

 

I presume the little chap is yours? Bloody sweet little lad!

 

edited, or girl!

Edited March 24, 2017 by Born Hunter

[jiggy 3,207]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Being British means nothing to me, a person of Asian or African decent can be British, I am English, and proud of the fact.

No they can't, they can be a British Citizen/Passport holder that isn't the same thing.

 

If I go to China with my wife and we have a child, would that child be Chinese? Can I be African or Indian? No no no.

 

This is why these questions of Britishness are so utterly pointless, if we cannot give the answer than makes the most sense then it doesn't mean anything.

 

If you and your wife moved to china and while living there had a kid then he would be chinese .

I doubt any Chinese person would take that seriously

so there is no such thing as white Americans or white australians