lurcherman 887 13,430 Posted October 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 I agree bird.. lads i was brought up with staffs myself seen them fight real bad my bitch had her paw torn basiaclly off by my other staff was horrific im not saying i want the breed banned i was asking others opinion but yes they are f***ing hard work especially the wanker ones you see out on a walk always looking for the fight ,well most of them anyway .. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 21,657 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 (edited) Nobody wants to see any breed banned that's why I said about a insurance scheme in the other thread.. It will price out most the numptys and those who are serious about the breeds will find a way... Its not perfect but it's better than blanket bans or more kids dieing imo. Edited October 14, 2016 by kanny Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forest of dean redneck 12,022 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 If you ban Stafford's, idiots will move on to other 'tough' breeds like Alsatians and Dobermanns. Then you'll end up with calls for those breeds to be banned after a spate of attacks due to bad breeding, training and handling, as their popularity shoots through the roof. Dunno when I was growing up in Dorset staffs were unusual ,plenty of Alsatians around in 80s then when hips went and they had to be Pts young rottys got more popular in 90s .staffies got more popular after that . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 Staffs got more popular because ignorant folk think they are a Pitbull. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shepp 2,285 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 Long prison sentences for people who are negligent and put children in harms way of powerful dogs. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gamerooster 1,179 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 ive never owned a bad staffi yet ,but they have always been trained properly,people that leave young kids in a room with any dog are asking for troubleI have about 10 year ago,a brindle bitch bought as 8 week pup ,it was about 18 months old,when it attacked my shepherd Lurcher I went to separate them,it was that fired up it snapped at me, I hit it once,then grabbed its lead an took it straight into vets PTS.What was the reason the staff attacked the lurcher.From what I can gather the lurcher had the nerve to walk inbetween me an the staff, we was out in back garden,I had the lurcher before the staff as well, the staff wasnt a tall one,but she wasn't one of these roly poly types either . So you got the dog pts? Let's rephrase that, you got a dog killed that is a sporting dog breed bred to fight for attacking another dog, and because you panicked and stuck your hand in between them she went for you? I hope your lurcher doesn't chase small animals, unless that to fancies a one way trip to the vets!!! The issue is nuggets choking a dogs natarul instinct, I've said this before but when a dog stops being bred for its original use, that's when the bother starts 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pesky1972 5,634 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 We have a thread like this every time some poor wee kid is mauled to death by a dog. The common factor is always the dog and kids being left alone together. As for the owner.., she was apparently a police officer, you'd think she'd have known better. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1974521/staffordshire-bull-terrier-which-mauled-baby-boy-to-death-belongs-to-a-policewoman/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
king 12,029 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 ive never owned a bad staffi yet ,but they have always been trained properly,people that leave young kids in a room with any dog are asking for troubleI have about 10 year ago,a brindle bitch bought as 8 week pup ,it was about 18 months old,when it attacked my shepherd Lurcher I went to separate them,it was that fired up it snapped at me, I hit it once,then grabbed its lead an took it straight into vets PTS.What was the reason the staff attacked the lurcher.From what I can gather the lurcher had the nerve to walk inbetween me an the staff, we was out in back garden,I had the lurcher before the staff as well, the staff wasnt a tall one,but she wasn't one of these roly poly types either . So you got the dog pts? Let's rephrase that, you got a dog killed that is a sporting dog breed bred to fight for attacking another dog, and because you panicked and stuck your hand in between them she went for you? I hope your lurcher doesn't chase small animals, unless that to fancies a one way trip to the vets!!! The issue is nuggets choking a dogs natarul instinct, I've said this before but when a dog stops being bred for its original use, that's when the bother starts So you are saying nobody should own a staff unless they use it for its original use.Bollocks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 ive never owned a bad staffi yet ,but they have always been trained properly,people that leave young kids in a room with any dog are asking for troubleI have about 10 year ago,a brindle bitch bought as 8 week pup ,it was about 18 months old,when it attacked my shepherd Lurcher I went to separate them,it was that fired up it snapped at me, I hit it once,then grabbed its lead an took it straight into vets PTS.What was the reason the staff attacked the lurcher.From what I can gather the lurcher had the nerve to walk inbetween me an the staff, we was out in back garden,I had the lurcher before the staff as well, the staff wasnt a tall one,but she wasn't one of these roly poly types either .So you got the dog pts? Let's rephrase that, you got a dog killed that is a sporting dog breed bred to fight for attacking another dog, and because you panicked and stuck your hand in between them she went for you? I hope your lurcher doesn't chase small animals, unless that to fancies a one way trip to the vets!!! The issue is nuggets choking a dogs natarul instinct, I've said this before but when a dog stops being bred for its original use, that's when the bother startsSo you are saying nobody should own a staff unless they use it for its original use.Bollocks Yeah, dog showing..... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 Long prison sentences for people who are negligent and put children in harms way of powerful dogs. Why this never suggested by any politicians,I don't know. But on the other hand,dogs that are mostly bred by clueless idiots are going to have faults bred into them,imo staffs are too far gone,too many arseholes breeding too many shyt dogs,with poor temperaments and a lot of drive. The same goes for a lot of breeds that get popular with cuntts like them Presa's,American bulldogs etc,but then what adds fuel to the fire is the fact that although the young dickheads don't usually treat them like babies and leave them unattended around kids,the furmommies who buy the shyt they breed do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pesky1972 5,634 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 Staffs got more popular because ignorant folk think they are a Pitbull.They got more popular after pitbulls were banned. Whilst I do agree with most, that ignorant & irresponsible owners are the cause of the majority of deaths involving kids being mauled by dogs, if pitbulls weren't banned there'd be a lot more getting into the hands of these fuckwits..., and I can't help thinking that we'd have seen a lot more dead kids. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
king 12,029 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 ive never owned a bad staffi yet ,but they have always been trained properly,people that leave young kids in a room with any dog are asking for troubleI have about 10 year ago,a brindle bitch bought as 8 week pup ,it was about 18 months old,when it attacked my shepherd Lurcher I went to separate them,it was that fired up it snapped at me, I hit it once,then grabbed its lead an took it straight into vets PTS.What was the reason the staff attacked the lurcher.From what I can gather the lurcher had the nerve to walk inbetween me an the staff, we was out in back garden,I had the lurcher before the staff as well, the staff wasnt a tall one,but she wasn't one of these roly poly types either .So you got the dog pts? Let's rephrase that, you got a dog killed that is a sporting dog breed bred to fight for attacking another dog, and because you panicked and stuck your hand in between them she went for you? I hope your lurcher doesn't chase small animals, unless that to fancies a one way trip to the vets!!! The issue is nuggets choking a dogs natarul instinct, I've said this before but when a dog stops being bred for its original use, that's when the bother startsSo you are saying nobody should own a staff unless they use it for its original use.Bollocks Yeah, dog showing..... The 1 and only reason every dog breed exists.Is from working dogs. So people who dont want to work dogs.aint allowed a dog. Bollocks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Gain 1,764 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 At the end of the day ALL dogs are capable of primeval behaviour, and consequently capable of inflicting injuries to varying degrees, even those snappy, cantankerous little chihuahuas could do a lot of damage to an infant. The common factor is always the dog and kids being left alone together. Yep, got to agree with that pesky1972, As we all know, there are dogs much more powerful than staffords, akitas, malamutes etc, so are we looking to ban all dogs with the capabilities to maul? One of the most vicious dogs I have encountered recently is a rescue saluki, it's an untrustworthy fcuker and I explained to the owner that although he has it under control he would only have to let his guard down for a split second and that could be someone bitten. Next time I saw him he had a muzzel on it. Good man. My own dog, the one in my avatar, has been attacked about 10 times now and NEVER retaliated, mainly because I have read the situation and dealt with it, but I am sick of argueing with these irresponsible owners, and one of those attackers was a labrador. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 ive never owned a bad staffi yet ,but they have always been trained properly,people that leave young kids in a room with any dog are asking for troubleI have about 10 year ago,a brindle bitch bought as 8 week pup ,it was about 18 months old,when it attacked my shepherd Lurcher I went to separate them,it was that fired up it snapped at me, I hit it once,then grabbed its lead an took it straight into vets PTS.What was the reason the staff attacked the lurcher.From what I can gather the lurcher had the nerve to walk inbetween me an the staff, we was out in back garden,I had the lurcher before the staff as well, the staff wasnt a tall one,but she wasn't one of these roly poly types either .So you got the dog pts? Let's rephrase that, you got a dog killed that is a sporting dog breed bred to fight for attacking another dog, and because you panicked and stuck your hand in between them she went for you? I hope your lurcher doesn't chase small animals, unless that to fancies a one way trip to the vets!!! The issue is nuggets choking a dogs natarul instinct, I've said this before but when a dog stops being bred for its original use, that's when the bother startsSo you are saying nobody should own a staff unless they use it for its original use.Bollocks Yeah, dog showing.....The 1 and only reason every dog breed exists.Is from working dogs. So people who dont want to work dogs.aint allowed a dog. Bollocks But the Staff was bred to be a show dog. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackdog92 2,047 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 If you ban Stafford's, idiots will move on to other 'tough' breeds like Alsatians and Dobermanns. Then you'll end up with calls for those breeds to be banned after a spate of attacks due to bad breeding, training and handling, as their popularity shoots through the roof. They already are, i was walking down the street one day and a young lad who looked 7 stone wet through had a very big alsation, witch as soon as it saw me was going mental trying to get to me and he was really struggling to keep hold. So i quickly crossed the road and got out of its sight, but i dread to think if it had broken his grip and it came at me. Im pretty sure i would have come of worst if it had. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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