WILF 44,325 Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 I met him once, in a club called T's, if i remember right. Bexley or Erith, somewhere down there? When i was with friends daan saarf. Nice bloke, gentleman, he was on our brief introductin but a big bloke. Next time i knew of him i was readin his book. My goodness, small world.....I have spent a few nights in that high quality establishment !! Lol lo A shithouse of the highest order, somehow I always wound up there on my own and I always wound up surrounded by 5 or 6 doormen. Nothing ever came of it though once they realised what an affable chap I am so fair play to them, not bad lads. You wasn't allowed to ware boots as I remember ! Haha 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hawki 1,429 Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 I met him once, in a club called T's, if i remember right. Bexley or Erith, somewhere down there? When i was with friends daan saarf. Nice bloke, gentleman, he was on our brief introductin but a big bloke. Next time i knew of him i was readin his book. My goodness, small world.....I have spent a few nights in that high quality establishment !! Lol lo A shithouse of the highest order, somehow I always wound up there on my own and I always wound up surrounded by 5 or 6 doormen. Nothing ever came of it though once they realised what an affable chap I am so fair play to them, not bad lads. You wasn't allowed to ware boots as I remember ! Haha and theirs me thinking you were a respectful school teacher Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 I wonder why Lenny forgot about his knockout losses in the boxing ring in his book... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yorkshire 151 Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 That Shaw fight where he bangs him non stop is amazing , how could you stop a man like that (with your bare hands) . trouble with fellas like Lenny is when they get pissed off and lose it they nearly kill some poor soul , not like a thick ear that you can apologise next day . I would like to hear gnashers take on him if he knew him ? To be a top dog in that era and area must have taken some holding down .. roy shaw beat lenny in his first fight and lenny was much bigger than roy shaw and quite a lot younger than him He beat him yes , but that's not the fight I mean , the Shaw fight that Lenny win is a fantastic watch , hits Shaw 30 odd times on the button like a madman , but Shaw still wants to fight , his head won't let him be beat but his body needs out .. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neil cooney 10,415 Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 Wasn't Lenny's father a bare knuckle boxer too ? So he didn't pick it up of the ground. Didn't his father used to fight at Blackheath on a Sunday morning ? Lads would show up at 11 for a fight not knowing he'd already had one at 10 and maybe 9 before that. Possibly a bit of romanticism there, but a tough man non the less. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marshman 7,756 Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 I met him once, in a club called T's, if i remember right. Bexley or Erith, somewhere down there? When i was with friends daan saarf. Nice bloke, gentleman, he was on our brief introductin but a big bloke. Next time i knew of him i was readin his book. My goodness, small world.....I have spent a few nights in that high quality establishment !! Lol loA shithouse of the highest order, somehow I always wound up there on my own and I always wound up surrounded by 5 or 6 doormen. Nothing ever came of it though once they realised what an affable chap I am so fair play to them, not bad lads. You wasn't allowed to ware boots as I remember ! Haha it is a really small world !! Lol "Ts" nightclub was my local haunt for years . I fact I met Mrs Marshman there , a privately educated posh girl slumming it for the night ? . Yeah we knew it was a rough club but we loved it . I was chatting her up and one of my mates on the other side of the club got fighting with Reggie Parker the bouncer and knocked him from the top of the stairs to the front door lol oh good times ? 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marshman 7,756 Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 I think he did try amateur boxing at Repton when he was a lad, he came from Hoxton way . I used go to clubs when Lenny was on the door and he was a powerhouse of a man if he told you to drink that drink you drunk that drink and left lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 2,566 Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 That Shaw fight where he bangs him non stop is amazing , how could you stop a man like that (with your bare hands) . trouble with fellas like Lenny is when they get pissed off and lose it they nearly kill some poor soul , not like a thick ear that you can apologise next day . I would like to hear gnashers take on him if he knew him ? To be a top dog in that era and area must have taken some holding down ..roy shaw beat lenny in his first fight and lenny was much bigger than roy shaw and quite a lot younger than him He beat him yes , but that's not the fight I mean , the Shaw fight that Lenny win is a fantastic watch , hits Shaw 30 odd times on the button like a madman , but Shaw still wants to fight , his head won't let him be beat but his body needs out .. I know the fight you mean ,cant believe roy shaw stayed on his feet for as long as he did.having said that roy shaw was'nt quite right in the head that's why they put him in broadmore 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 2,566 Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 its a shame lenny did not have a fight with bartley Gorman that I would like to have seen 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 29,662 Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 Gnasher knew the man personally I am sure he will give you boys the answer ...... Wouldnt say i knew him personally he was a different generation from me i just spent a few years with a silly dickie bow wrapped round my neck talking bollocks with him a few nights a week.....most half decent heavyweight pros would of dealt with Lennie quite comfortably as he simply wasnt a boxer i dont think he ever threw a jab in his life he thought the jab was pointless..... he fought with far too much rage and aggression to be a boxer and just wasnt dedicated enough he was an old school hard man who loved a tear up he didnt like running and training he would spar himself into condition which any fighter knows is impossible to do.......that said,in a straightener he was the most frightening man i have ever come across and had the rare ability to hate for no reason he could summon up explosive energy in an instant almost like he had an adrenalin tank on his back !......in my opinion the exact thing that made him so formidable as a bouncer/minder was the same thing that would of stopped him being a professional boxer. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 29,662 Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 Gnasher knew the man personally I am sure he will give you boys the answer ......i reckon you'd take him kenfu, all camoed up he wouldn't stand a chance lololol, who da feck does gnasher not know? I know hardly anyone north of Watford but folk in the same game in the same area its hard not to know.......is it my fault the area has had so much fighting talent Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,180 Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 Gnasher knew the man personally I am sure he will give you boys the answer ...... Wouldnt say i knew him personally he was a different generation from me i just spent a few years with a silly dickie bow wrapped round my neck talking bollocks with him a few nights a week.....most half decent heavyweight pros would of dealt with Lennie quite comfortably as he simply wasnt a boxer i dont think he ever threw a jab in his life he thought the jab was pointless..... he fought with far too much rage and aggression to be a boxer and just wasnt dedicated enough he was an old school hard man who loved a tear up he didnt like running and training he would spar himself into condition which any fighter knows is impossible to do.......that said,in a straightener he was the most frightening man i have ever come across and had the rare ability to hate for no reason he could summon up explosive energy in an instant almost like he had an adrenalin tank on his back !......in my opinion the exact thing that made him so formidable as a bouncer/minder was the same thing that would of stopped him being a professional boxer.do you think he would have beaten Bartley Gorman?!? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 29,662 Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 No idea mate i dont really know who he is or anything about him to be honest. As for the lads talking about Lennies fights with Roy Shaw thats where you can gauge Lennies level with gloves on as Roy Shaw was a good little welterweight back in his earlier years........outside of a boxing ring Lennie would of made a mess of him in short order. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 2,566 Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 is there any footage of bartley Gorman fighting,ive never come across any Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MickC 1,825 Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 (edited) Outside the ring Mclean was meant to be like Gnasher says a frightening man,inside the ring however he was not the same fighter. He had iirc 13 unlicenced fights losing 6 and 4 of those being first round knockout losses and was also stopped by Shaw in the first fight. None of these losses were mentioned in any of his books except for the Shaw loss, but if you have read the Wildcats book by Danny Woolard it is mentioned in there among other things about him. Edited February 7, 2016 by MickC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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