Depression

[gnasher16 31,371]

Its a subject far too complex not to seek expert help with in my opinion........never suffered with it myself but made the mistake with an old mate of mine in regularly telling him to liven himself up,he used to drive me mad but i was ignorant to it and just did the normal thing of trying to get him out and about......i lost patience with him in the end and it cost our friendship which is sad but it was my mistake and it taught me theres certain things that cant be solved by simple logic like exercise and keeping active......theres professional experts in the field of mental illness out there,why not use their expertise.

[gnipper 6,763]

Something I didn't mention earlier

 

It becomes very hard to concentrate even on the simplest of tasks this can have the knock on effect of affecting ones self confidence.

 

In turn you have a feeling that your not in control anymore

 

Its a bit like trying to climb out of a pit.

 

You get so far then slip a little eventually you get yourself free .

 

Its like a loss of everything that makes you tick.

 

 

The main thing is it doesn't have to be permanent.Time support and following the right guidelines will eventually get him through

That's why I fecked school up, coursework isn't the best thing for someone feeling the way I was. I ended up fishing every day for 5 months and then started keepering. I doubt I'll ever be right but there's a lot of folks worse off than me. My kids help me get through the shit times now ?

[Phil Lloyd 10,739]

its a awfull thing to have got a mate going through a bad time at the moment i can only be there for him when he needs some one to talk to,but why do these doctors fill them with tablets that seem to send them like zombies its not the answere,has any one else really been bad with it and what got you through it,i know a lot of people do actually take there own lives the brain is a funny thing one minute you can be on top of the world the next your out of the game,ive been lucky ive always been fit and healthy but i will always be there for any friend in need

 

 

Depression is terrible thing,...the Black Dog brings a terrible curse,.. he can visit you at any time....

 

I have lived with this malady for over 50 years,...could never kill off the fecker,..and God,. I've tried.

Edited November 16, 2014 by Phil Lloyd

[paulus 26]

something that could effect, anyone regardless of there circumstances. must admit to being effected by it myself.

[j j m 6,611]

God cant belive how many of you lads have been effected bye it,i take my hat off to you to come on a forum and put your side accross theres some sad stories I only hope one day you get better,i never thought bye starting this thread id learn so much about it and tablets take a big part of it

[Malt 379]

Suffered myself due to being out of work and not able to get out and about properly while my knees were bad over the past 7 years or so. Even though I'm back at work and more mobile since my last two ops I still struggle trying to motivate myself and get shit done around the house here. Of all the things this forum and it's members kept me relatively sane while I was not all that mobile. don't know what I'd have done without being able to at least talk and read about the things I love doing with like minded individuals.

[j j m 6,611]

Good on you malt, ive got to admit when im pis,ed off I come on here to listen to the local banter that always cheeres me up

[skycat 6,174]

I've been doing a little research into depression and anxiety, having suffered from both for many years: anti-depressants never really worked, just dulled the pain. What really helped me was Cognitive Behaviour Therapy: really learning to understand why you feel the way you do, and tracing it back to what started it (usually something in your childhood) can be the start of climbing out of the hole you are in. I've recently been learning about certain genes that can be dormant at birth, but become 'switched on' through stress or trauma, so yes, it can be genetic too. It has been proven that children of parents who suffered from depression are more likely to be at risk of the same illness.

 

Knowledge, self-awareness and having someone to talk to, preferably a professional who can help guide you in the right direction, are the most powerful tools in the fight against depression. Being physically active does help: chopping wood, running, walking with dogs, hard physical graft alters the chemicals in your body and does combat the depression, but if you're that depressed it is impossible to make yourself do anything: been there, wasted a lot of time like that.

 

Ask about therapy: it is available on the NHS but you have to really ask the doctor for it, rather than just letting them fill you up with pills. Obviously CBT isn't appropriate for everyone, but worth finding out more. Neuro-linguistic programming is another therapy that can help, not sure if it is available on the NHS or not.

[TUFFTY 1,484]

Suffered from depression for about 25 years now.

its hard work believe me.

done most of the prescription stuff to no affect.

Its trying to do the things you like to do most more. Just to make you feel happy.

[Hareydave 1,214]

it could hit anyone at anytime an theirs nobody immune to it.

Edited November 17, 2014 by Hareydave

[gnasher16 31,371]

Think theres probably a lot of people who think they suffer with depression who are actually just down in the dumps we,ve all been pissed off with life for any number of reasons and gone through a bad patch......but the mate i had who was diagnosed with clinical depression had a great life,a lovely home and mrs,was the life and soul most of the time but then just seemed to hit a brick wall id go to his gaff and he,d be sitting in a chair could barely look up at me it was horrible to watch he didnt want to know about nobody or nothing for a good 2 years.......im told he,s doing well now through eventually seeing the right people but certainly makes you realise how fragile the human mind can be.

[Kay 3,709]

Bloody hell depression is terrible... i had some terrible thoughts about my family where all dead .. dreams about stuff ... so vivid i was scared to sleep ... i had a brief period where i thought people where in my house my brother had to check in the loft .. its been what i can describe as a living hell

 

i know folks think if your female your making it up but it was very real for me & now i have got help i needed & keeping busy is absolutely spot on i need to focus on the future & now i have finished crucifying myself for a bad mistake i made 18 months ago

[lanesra 4,007]

Think theres probably a lot of people who think they suffer with depression who are actually just down in the dumps we,ve all been pissed off with life for any number of reasons and gone through a bad patch......but the mate i had who was diagnosed with clinical depression had a great life,a lovely home and mrs,was the life and soul most of the time but then just seemed to hit a brick wall id go to his gaff and he,d be sitting in a chair could barely look up at me it was horrible to watch he didnt want to know about nobody or nothing for a good 2 years.......im told he,s doing well now through eventually seeing the right people but certainly makes you realise how fragile the human mind can be.

That Is Proper Clinical Depression Some People Think You Can Only Be Depressed If Your Skint & Anyone Financially / Family Well Off Shouldn't Ever Be Depressed Which Is Wrong , I Know Some People With Nothing Really & There There As Happy As You Could Wish To Be , When Stan Collymore Came Out With His Depression There Was People Saying BUT How Can He Be Depressed Hes A Millionaire Footballer , Fancy House Plenty Of Women Ect . . There's A Saying Thats So Right YOUR HEALTHS YOUR WEALTH !!

[twobob 1,506]

not had it myself but lived with it for years when i was a kid the old man had it he would come home from work and my mother would put his dinner on the table he would pick it up and put it on the floor for the dogs he wouldnt eat for weeks he wouldnt talk to any of us but still went to work everyday he wouldnt go to the doctors i used to think he was a cnut its only when you get older and realise that other people have the same things he wasnt a cnut just ill it wasnt until he got made redundant when he was about 60 that he finally got help laying in a darkend room listening to whale music did it for him

[Truther 1,579]

I think that's the crux of the problem

We have no freedoms and we have to work till we drop just to get by.

At the end of the day it's only Goverment and multinationals who benefit

If we just all had the balls to stick together for a few months and say enough is enough

If we just all withheld our council tax that would be enough

If we then just all said we downing tools as a Nation til VAT is scrapped .

That would be another step in the right direction.

 

It's give give give and it's just not worth it.

 

My doctor told me about 45% of his patients visited him with issues related to stress, some being physical symptoms but stress related, not just invisible "depression" The wife started grinding her teeth in her sleep, the dentist made her a gumshield and told her it was very common, he said modern living and all the stress it puts people under was the cause, it begs the question "is it worth it" i don't think so, so i don't get caught up in material things, i really don't care about "things" ill drop the tools and tell them to f**k off any time everybody else is ready lol.

 

I've lived with depression all my life, good and bad days/weeks/months, but its always there just under the surface, i think mines a bit more than just depression, maybe mild a personality disorder? Hard on my wife and kids sometimes, not that i do anything daft, i just don't do much at all, they missed out on a lot because i can't handle social things very well, i get anxious when i have to leave my bubble. I put a good face on it most of the time, ive had lots of responsibility and coped pretty well, but every day is a struggle more or less, wouldn't wish it on anybody. And i did get help a couple of times when things got bad, helped me short term, but i know there's no permanent cure for me, even if i had a fantastic life plenty of money...ect it wouldn't completely cure me, might even make it worse having to do more like holidays and such?