(Tenacity ) ?

[paulsmithy83 567]

Only have to wach on utube how athletic them mali are mix that [BANNED TEXT] grey and should be well away plus they hav stupid amount of grit just watch a military vid on utube f**k they got some go

[camp lamper 8]

give me a good lurcher to lurcher bred dog or a bull cross any day seen gsd x grys 1/2 crosses 5/8 3/8s and 1/4 bred never seen a good one..it made me laugh when facing teeth running around baying like a terrier no guts what so ever

 

its all comes down to age and not giving them to much to make them sick

 

but not with gsds that's why most people hunt them in packs because there no good on there own

[Bossie 90]

give me a good lurcher to lurcher bred dog or a bull cross any day seen gsd x grys 1/2 crosses 5/8 3/8s and 1/4 bred never seen a good one..it made me laugh when facing teeth running around baying like a terrier no guts what so ever

 

its all comes down to age and not giving them to much to make them sick

 

but not with gsds that's why most people hunt them in packs because there no good on there own

 

 

In that case the shepherd blood used probably wasn't up to scratch. When finding the right working shepherd sire or dam, the last thing I'd be worried about is them lacking tenacity or balls.

Especially the mali likes things that bite back. I know several working shepherd crosses over here which are very brave. Which usually contain quite some gsd blood as well (size/nose/temperament).

I think the dislike for continental shepherds in a lurcher cross might be explained as some sort of kennel blindness which I can understand. (I do not mean to offend anyone) Why use anything from abroad if the stuff you've got seems to do the job for you just right....

Apart from that is will also depend on what is available and just simple difference in taste.

Edited February 25, 2013 by Bossie

[WILF 44,334]

With any Bull x type, it depends on the bull blood......just because someone chucks any bully type dog in the mix don't mean it will have a bit extra.

 

There's dogs and there's dogs !.......put the right type of blood in and no herder type dog will match that because they were never bred to do the same thing

 

JMHO

[woz 260]

give me a good lurcher to lurcher bred dog or a bull cross any day seen gsd x grys 1/2 crosses 5/8 3/8s and 1/4 bred never seen a good one..it made me laugh when facing teeth running around baying like a terrier no guts what so ever

 

its all comes down to age and not giving them to much to make them sick

 

but not with gsds that's why most people hunt them in packs because there no good on there own

Now now campy...I offered to bring my little mali out on the lamp with us and you point blank refused to walk out with her...she'd of been an asset to us...she would of only tagged you if I'd of given the command..she loves to play fetch with fur..pearl n punk will make a formidable team lol

[Bosun11 537]

Woz, best of luck with your Mali hybrids, though, just a word to the wise... Now those dogs could just well be the best things since sliced bread but i'd very much mind what i'd post about 'em on an open forum. You say, you'll post warts an all but i'd bet you'll have more success than failure. Success on here and other forums like this generates interest and, sad to say most of it from the wrong types to own a dog with Mali in it or, god forbid, a full Mali.

From the little I know on these dogs, I do know that they certainly wouldn't suit everybody but unfortunately on here, everybody reads (to a less or greater degree!). If I was you mate, I'd keep any reports to those who have a vested interest and a bit of common sense...

 

Best of luck with the future...

[leegreen 2,100]

If I was you mate, I'd keep any reports to those who have a vested interest and a bit of common sense...

 

 

 

 

So very true, but this could be said about the bull cross, though less likely to bite somebody.

 

Although I'm pretty sure Woz wouldn't let them go to anyone.

Edited February 25, 2013 by leegreen

[Bosun11 537]

If I was you mate, I'd keep any reports to those who have a vested interest and a bit of common sense...

 

 

 

 

So very true, but this could be said about the bull cross, though less likely to bite somebody.

 

Although I'm pretty sure Woz wouldn't let them go to anyone.

I'm a few years too late for that one Lee...!!

[woz 260]

For me this isn't going to be what they'll smash...I hoping to post about there lives really..how bidable..ease to train...drive...nose..speed agility..warts and all:..I'm very aware that the rspca...anti's..police ..pillocks all love thl.....if lads want smashers they gunna be better off with bull x's....I want these to be a base line for what I personally want from a lurcher...and let's be honest the odds of creating world beaters is bloody unlikely...

[leegreen 2,100]

.and let's be honest the odds of creating world beaters is bloody unlikely...

 

 

But also quite possible .

[bunnys 1,228]

i would say there aint a type that aint had there five minutes of fame , for one reason or other but i believe this xs will give thee what the collie can and lots lots more these are not afraid to face ought down . we are in a world where the need to abide by the laws of the country and this us hunters do by the book . even the most average malli bitch will be streets ahead of a collie type seen today in these shores ,the problem being hand picking the right handlers for these . i believe there wioll be to much for most , and those who will throw the towell in with out fair crack of the whip . blend these and one will get something , finding the amount of game etc will only be the problem i foresee to keep these a happy . possibly betta suited to the single animal handler giving them everything time work etc . atb bunnys.

[bunnys 1,228]

 

give me a good lurcher to lurcher bred dog or a bull cross any day seen gsd x grys 1/2 crosses 5/8 3/8s and 1/4 bred never seen a good one..it made me laugh when facing teeth running around baying like a terrier no guts what so ever

 

its all comes down to age and not giving them to much to make them sick

 

but not with gsds that's why most people hunt them in packs because there no good on there own

 

 

In that case the shepherd blood used probably wasn't up to scratch. When finding the right working shepherd sire or dam, the last thing I'd be worried about is them lacking tenacity or balls.

Especially the mali likes things that bite back. I know several working shepherd crosses over here which are very brave. Which usually contain quite some gsd blood as well (size/nose/temperament).

I think the dislike for continental shepherds in a lurcher cross might be explained as some sort of kennel blindness which I can understand. (I do not mean to offend anyone) Why use anything from abroad if the stuff you've got seems to do the job for you just right....

Apart from that is will also depend on what is available and just simple difference in taste. i can see your point of offending folk, but its a true fact that these isles heve being longing for harder blood through the herders different herders from other continents are allready here and have been for a good while , but on the whole most feel the softness through the collie ranks is rife and finding stock of yesteryear is difficult if not impossible , hence the need to influx good hard rugged clever robust animals to give one a chance in these isles is long over due . atb bunnys.

[woz 260]

With any Bull x type, it depends on the bull blood......just because someone chucks any bully type dog in the mix don't mean it will have a bit extra.

 

There's dogs and there's dogs !.......put the right type of blood in and no herder type dog will match that because they were never bred to do the same thing

 

JMHO

There's no decent apbt blood left...exported..culled or dumped and time has taken care of the rest...there's some great bull x's about...same for Wheaton,collie.deer hound you name it there's some wonderful dogs...there's an awful lot more bull terrier in malis that anyone really would admit..the knpv boys sorted it....the line my bitch has come from isn't readily available in the UK if at all..iv no interest in breeding mals of thos line,there to full on and who's honestly got true work for them?? Police only want watered down stuff that don't stick in....security...fat diabetic bloke that sleeps a lot and the dog lives in the van all its life....ppd who honestly needs something more than bark and hold???...schutzhund..nothing more than prey drive and good obiedience....

 

The Yorkshire cup a few years ago...12 of the 18 dogs entered failed the courage test..........im into my lurchers and want something that ticks the boxes for what I'm after.....

Edited February 26, 2013 by woz

[blackgreyhound 206]

i would dispute comments on german shephed x greyhound haveing no guts.in the seventies i was out lamping when my gsd x grey 27 inch 85lbs .for some stupid reason he decided he wanted to attack a boar badger couldnt get him off it .the.dog ended up with his nose nearly torn off his face looked like someone had slashed him with a scapel he was a bloody mess .he was very angry and fired up i thought the boar would kill him but it eneded up the other way round.i was very upset and annoyed a boar badger dead and my dog ripped very badly .huge vet bill and could never go in badger areas with him again. a very hard dog took fallow easily caught hares in daylight muntjack in woods in the thickest cover daylight.caught lot of deer in the dark with no lamp needed.people who say gsd x greyhound are soft obviously haveant seen a decent one .his name was spider

[bunnys 1,228]

 

With any Bull x type, it depends on the bull blood......just because someone chucks any bully type dog in the mix don't mean it will have a bit extra.

 

There's dogs and there's dogs !.......put the right type of blood in and no herder type dog will match that because they were never bred to do the same thing

 

JMHO

There's no decent apbt blood left...exported..culled or dumped and time has taken care of the rest...there's some great bull x's about...same for Wheaton,collie.deer hound you name it there's some wonderful dogs...there's an awful lot more bull terrier in malis that anyone really would admit..the knpv boys sorted it....the line my bitch has come from isn't readily available in the UK if at all..iv no interest in breeding mals of thos line,there to full on and who's honestly got true work for them?? Police only want watered down stuff that don't stick in....security...fat diabetic bloke that sleeps a lot and the dog lives in the van all its life....ppd who honestly needs something more than bark and hold???...schutzhund..nothing more than prey drive and good obiedience....

 

The Yorkshire cup a few years ago...12 of the 18 dogs entered failed the courage test..........im into my lurchers and want something that ticks the boxes for what I'm after..... glad to here that the point as been made of the bull blood in the malli as is the the same as the ausie types plenty bull in em . atb bunnys.