Well Terryd the mix worked not too bad but I don't altogether agree with quantities (BBC puff pastry recipe). I did all the mixing, cling film, fridge, out, roll, fold, fridge, out, roll, fold, fridge,out roll fold. All that took best part of an hour. Beef with onion and potato cooked to perfection. Rolled out and sized the pastry, lined the dish,filled and capped. Pre heated oven165 and in went pie for 45 mins. Daughter arrived,sat down with dinner, nice pie dad. I asked if she noticed anything different to whit, no not really. Moral. Buy the stuff or stick to short crust. Must try harder.