If you are asking me, which I think you are, 2 years is cool. Thing is, then you've to work out the straightening which means another year. The things you can get up to just getting them straight is mind boggling. Being totally honest, I think them days are gone. Reason being we are not doing it for show or to impress, rather to fulfill our own requirements. The holly I have has to be at least 10 yrs possibly double that and it looks fantastic. When I started on it, the only work was to debarked and generally shape. That ended up as a kind of hexagon. Then forget for a number of years. Well. T