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  1. It is not business as usual, not even close. Lurcher work is finished in Scotland. It’s now illegal to hunt and/or catch a rabbit with a dog.
  2. The Bill has been passed. Rabbiting is now illegal in Scotland.
  3. It is correct and something I have been posting on here for some time. The Act will also include enhanced stop and search powers and deprivation orders banning offenders from keeping dogs. The SNP promised the ‘Greens’ they would look at hunting based on their coalition agreement which is actually all about Sturgeons independence dream. Sadly, the fieldsports community in Scotland have done very little to rebut this, presumably hoping it will go away. Well it hasn’t. The whole thing is flawed but it’s been allowed to get to this stage which is now probably too late. Sad.
  4. You can access the link to the e-lobby on the CA update at beginning of this thread. Just click on the e-lobby words. I still think urgent direct liaison with your MSP through letter or face to face is far better as the e-lobby is more to do with fox control and the licensing system. Do both! The CA and others are suggesting to the Scottish Government that the way to exclude rabbits from an effective total ban is for land owner permission to be required. That is exactly the same situation as in the rest of the UK.
  5. There are no 'new hunting laws' only stiffer penalties for Hare Coursing/Poaching and it being much easier to now prosecute those allegedly involved. There are supposed to be safeguards embedded in the legislation for legitimate hunting on permission but I don't know what they are. Obviously in Scotland there is a draft Bill progressing that will effectively outlaw ALL hunting with dogs except ratting and, at present, some limited terrier work but even that now looks at risk. All Lurcher work will be finished next year if the Bill is not amended.
  6. Lovely dog and pictures. I just hope she can continue doing what she is bred for and that the emerging SNP/Greens proposed ban on hunting rabbits fails. Hopefully the Scottish lurcher community with rally and do whatever it takes to persuade their SNPs to press for amendments to the Bill which is now at a critical stage. As it stands taking rabbits with dogs will be illegal sometime in the New Year unless amendments are made.
  7. The best thing anyone can do in Scotland is to urgently write to their MSP and urge them, at least, to press for rabbits to be removed from the definition of mammals in the emerging Bill. Explain how responsible humane lurcher work, works (ferreting etc) and why that part of your rural heritage and liberty to harvest natural food in this sustainable way should continue. Explain that there are more sensible ways to stop illegal hare poaching - as that is the main reason cited by the Scottish Government for including rabbits in the ban. Some of the politicians in Holyrood are clearly be
  8. An update on the Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill WWW.COUNTRYSIDE-ALLIANCE.ORG Director of the Scottish Countryside Alliance, Jake Swindells, provides an update on...
  9. https://www.countryside-alliance.org/News/2022/9/An-update-on-the-Hunting-with-Dogs-Scotland-Bill
  10. This is exactly it. The only hope North of the Border now is that the Scottish field sports community come together to lobby their respective MSP’s like crazy. As it stands, alongside hound work with more than two dogs and bizarrely trail hunting, all lurcher work and rabbiting will be illegal. Whilst the Raine Committee have asked for clarification on the justification for adding rabbits to the ban, it’s was more to do with issues raised by BASC in the committee stage. Nobody defended lurcher work in the various sessions AND, sadly, the non-shooting fieldsports community have been generally v
  11. Great to see. I just hope you guys north of the border can persuade your MSP’s to ditch, or at least alter, the Scottish Government backed draft legislation that is currently going through your Parliament which would finish ALL that is left of traditional lurcher work in Scotland by defining Rabbits as mammals for the purposes of the Act and therefore it would be an offence to catch or even attempt to catch (hunt) them with a dog. The flushing exemption does not help you. Otherwise posts like yours will sadly soon be a thing of the past. Good Luck.
  12. But I don’t think it will if the intent or consequence is for the dog to catch the rabbit in any circumstance. As drafted lurcher work is effectively finished in Scotland. Only rats and mice are exempt. There has been pressure from political lobbyists (Rabbits Have Rights is one) close to the Greens etc to end ‘rabbit coursing’ which of course we all know is a nonsense and that there is no such thing. The Scottish fieldsports/lurcher community are surprisingly apathetic and are doing almost nothing to counter the misinformation and/or defend this traditional form of pest cont
  13. I understand what you are thinking but why keep your head down? You are defending something that is perfectly legal and entirely justifiable at present and, frankly, something that doesn’t bother most ordinary people in society. This has all come as a result of the deal Sturgeon did with the Greens to support her independence dream. It will be nothing short of a disaster for anyone who wants to work a lurcher in Scotland if the Act is passed and a sad day.
  14. Having looked at this again, this can’t be right; it will definitely be unlawful to hunt rabbits with a dog. So catching rabbits with a lurcher, whippet or terrier will be illegal in Scotland. I’m absolutely astounded how little reaction to this proposed measure there is, even in publications like CM and zero commentary from the CA etc. Perhaps worse the Scottish lurcher community seem content to just sit back and see there way of life taken away in a matter of months by a few misinformed and prejudiced politicians being pressured by highly motivated animal rights groups. Crazy.
  15. I hope they are right in terms of being able to catch rabbits with dogs but that’s not how I read it. Yes you can hunt and flush (to a gun) utilising the exemptions but I’m pretty sure conventional lurcher work would fall foul of the legislation and be unlawful if Act is passed.
  16. It is the Greens that are behind this who were obviously given assurances on this a many other of their policies, in return for backing Sturgeons independence obsession. The detail of the exemptions make no sense whatsoever but the onus will be on the lurcher owner to demonstrate such exemptions each time. Totally unnecessary and perilous. Tightening up of the drafting might just save whippet and lurcher work north of the border. At the moment, it’s not looking good.
  17. Seems to me the Scottish lurcher/fieldsports community need to go on the offensive as the Irish did/do, rather than sitting back moaning about what is surely inevitable otherwise. The starting point is to get rabbits exempted in the emerging bill as in the current legislation. Catching rabbits with birds of prey will remain lawful, for example, so why is there a proposed ban on dogs; that’s not a question for here but one of many to present to MSP’s etc.
  18. Seems to me the Scottish lurcher/fieldsports community need to go on the offensive as the Irish did/do, rather than sitting back moaning about what is surely inevitable otherwise. The starting point is to get rabbits exempted in the emerging bill as in the current legislation. Catching rabbits with birds of prey will remain lawful, for example, so why is there a proposed ban on dogs; that’s not a question for here but one of many to present to MSP’s etc.
  19. You are 100% right about things being posted on social media and forums. SACS have been trying to do something about the draft bill (including the rabbiting part) and the CA do have the ability to engage at Government level. You could still lobby the MSP’s. It worked in NI. Otherwise it’ll just happen and that’s a sad thought. I’m pretty sure it’s technically unlawful to cross the border to have a terriers tail docked and whilst that is probably unenforceable, as it would be with rabbiting, it seems anything is possible, especially with the current political make up in Scotlan
  20. The draft bill was published today. Probably take 6-12 months to go though the various stages but others will know better. My advice is lobby your MSP’s, join SACS and CA and actively press them to raise the parts of the bill that will ruin your way of life. The CA seem to respond like it’s just about fox hunting, whereas the idea that a young lad going out for a day in the countryside to catch a rabbit with his ferret and whippet may be a criminal in the future is almost beyond belief.
  21. Sadly, as suspected and warned, the Scottish Government have published the draft legislation which would make ALL lurcher work illegal north of the border. They are adding rabbits to the ban, alongside restricting fox hunting severely.
  22. BTTT. The Scottish consultation on hunting with dogs (including ratting and rabbiting) closes tomorrow.
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