Wouldn't put harkila and seeland in the same category, the seeland trousers I've had in the pass are poor in comparison but less than half the price, Fjallraven vidda pro I've had for couple years now had a lot of use out of them.. there light weight breathable and quite, but they WILL tear easily if not careful as there just hiking trousers really but I'll be getting another pair when they rip.