They are a bit hot mark, so will have to watch them, if they go any higher I will have to do something to keep them legal.
They feel a bit different to the vmached one I've used at the airgun bash. Slightly faster than I was looking for, but absolutely no twang or felt recoil.
Of course the one I used at the bash was well run in, so that may change over time.
Interestingly they feel similar to the hideously expensive venomised 80,s I bought in the auction last week.