Yes but it's supposed to be enjoyable, not a competition to beat last years bag returns, it some times depends if the shoot captain owns the shoot, or is elected to run the shoot, the ones who own it tend enforce the rules more, ( probably beacause they wrote them) and the captains who are elected, pander to what the guns want, these tended to treat the beaters worse in my opinion, where the ones who owned the shoot, made you feel more valued, again in my opinion, but then neither is an excuse to shoot unsporting birds, at the end of the day we are all under the anti shooting spot light, and