Born Hunter
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So far % pro hunting!!! But is it really going to make any difference? I think its been proven that it doesnt really matter how many people are pro, I beleive the march in london was the biggest ever and that made f**k all difference. Voted anyway, for the little effort it took its always worth it just to imagine the antis responses
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grand opening 5 star fox hotel
Born Hunter replied to jamie2004live's topic in Earthdogs & Working Terriers
hopefully get some pics up of 1 im putting in over the next few weeks -
This is getting dangerously close to the "killing for killing sake" and "pseudo pest control" argument. Or have I just taken some bait? Swampy Nervous Ning Dunno if youve taken bait or not pal, not sure what you mean. all i mean is just because its on the official pest list dont mean its neccessarily a pest on your/my permissions. As for killing for killing sake, what some may call hunting for sport, thats another matter, i was talking purely about pest control. And if you dont mind me asking, what the hell does 'ning' mean? lol, and why a nervous ning?
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This is getting dangerously close to the "killing for killing sake" and "pseudo pest control" argument. Or have I just taken some bait? Swampy Nervous Ning Dunno if youve taken bait or not pal, not sure what you mean. all i mean is just because its on the official pest list dont mean its neccessarily a pest on your/my permissions. As for killing for killing sake, what some may call hunting for sport, thats another matter, i was talking purely about pest control. And if you dont mind me asking, what the hell does 'ning' mean? lol, and why a nervous ning?
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In my opinion just because the government put certain species on the pest list doesnt mean that any one with a gun in their hand on their permission should shoot any of these species just because they are on the list. It is my opinion that the species named on the list are only on there because in certain areas they do alot of damage or exist in unaturally large numbers and therefore have to be controlled however this is not the case in every part of the country. For instance rabbits, in a lot of places in the country there are shite loads of the little destructive buggers and they do alot of
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Propper stock protection
Born Hunter replied to Squirrel_Basher's topic in Earthdogs & Working Terriers
100 % mate i think some people on here wouldnt go to help a farmer or sheperd thats needs a hand foxdropper nice work I think everyone wants to calm down a little, no one said he did wrong in dealing with a lamb killing fox, just making it clear to all those unsavoury sorts (you all know who i mean) watching that it was done in complete compliance with the law, ie the terrier was used to control fox for game bird preservation that just happened to be the a lamb killer. And now i await the 'f**k the ban f**k the law' brigade, but yeh f**k the ban all the same -
No mate they are pests in certain areas, thats a fact. If 1000 hares can be shot in 2 days on one farm then they are sure as hell a pest, if a farmer is making large losses to a large hare population then they either need to 'earn there keep' which used to happen through the money legal coursing meets would generate or be controlled by one means or another, and like it or not when it comes to pest control for hares the hare shoot prove there worth. But your right about them not beeing rodents, rodens only have 2 incisor teath, logamorphs have 4. I personally feel i respect the hare greatly
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Role on Barbicue weather, cant wait, hopefully get some decent weather for them over easter
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Like i have said, its what your conscience lets you do. Mine wouldn't let me do nothing while something that i know is WRONG is happening when i am the only person who could stop it. As someone has said before, would the situation be any different if it was someone abusing children or equaly as wrong. And you might say, "well i wouldnt grass, i would take a bat to the dirty b*****d", well thats what you would do, and if it ended up with the cruel f****r dieing painfully and the victim saved i would do the same, believe me i f*****g well would. But lets be honest, you cant guarantee that and th
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The mighty hare dont half bring out emotion in people, and so it should, magnificant animal. But who is anyone to say what is fair to be shot and what is not. How is it not fair to shoot a hare yet it is fair to shoot a pheasant or a partridge or even a rat. In alot of places hare shoots take part as a means of pest control, and they are a pest in these areas as if not the land wouldn't be able to sustain litteraly thousands of hares beeing shot each and every year. People that say if they have to be shot for pest control a rifle should be used want to educate themselves a bit, a rifleman
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thanks UM They already know what I think and that I will be the one who puts an end to it lot of activity there the last couple of days. Myself I couldn't care less what anyone calls me, I do what I have to do and am more than happy to live with the consequences of my actions. With regard to a comment on an earlier reply on the outcome and the seven day thing, those dogs have been as good as dead from day one and the village folk who have had to listen to the sound of dogs in distress have all assumed it was our dogs, how convenient for the cruel barsteward. In a funeral that my wi
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The same can be said about pheasant or rabbits or whatever, keep the range sensible and use the right shot and choke and you wont have a problem. Personally i use 36gm load of BB's with half choke no further than 35-40 yards out of my auto. The reality of using a shotgun is that the quarry isnt always killed cleanly, which is why its ideal to have a dog or 2 about that are suitable for the quarry your hunting, but using the right load and keeping the range sensible even a wounding shot should take enough out of the fox to be able to follow up and despatch as quikly as possible. Sorry
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The same can be said about pheasant or rabbits or whatever, keep the range sensible and use the right shot and choke and you wont have a problem. Personally i use 36gm load of BB's with half choke no further than 35-40 yards out of my auto. The reality of using a shotgun is that the quarry isnt always killed cleanly, which is why its ideal to have a dog or 2 about that are suitable for the quarry your hunting, but using the right load and keeping the range sensible even a wounding shot should take enough out of the fox to be able to follow up and despatch as quikly as possible.
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heres a couple of the few i have, from a year or two ago. Not competition winners but here they are;
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I agree & as no one else was there to say one way or another what the animal was off this board lets just put it down to experience , before it gets totally silly & yet another pet worker debate Thanks kay, i thought i was putting myself into the firing line then. I was expecting 3 pages of people telling me what a twat i am.
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I think we are all jumping on the bandwagon a bit here. The lad said he had his ferret in his hand so there was no chance of shooting his ferret and by the sound of it (whatever we eventually decide it was), it wasnt acting very 'domesticated'. Alot of folks would have shot it in the same situation as i probably would if i was doing ferreting for pest control as it would only be a potential danger to your ferret in the future if left (judging by the size of it i would imagine it could easily kill a jill). Of course there is the line of thought that it is doing the land owner a favour by predat
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Ive done a fair bit of it, can be great fun but can also be frustrating as hell if you get rabbits that 'hole hop' all the time. I usually use my auto with no more than half choke but usually skeet if im out soley for rabbits. Not suited to all lands though, i prefer to net where possible usually, but then im a shite shot.
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You will not find any legislation supporting your view. In the eyes of the law, your animals are classed as your property. It is not an offence to destroy your own property. It's against the law to be cruel to an animal, but if you destroy it without being cruel, there's not a court in the country that could convict you. It is only an offence to kill a protected species, and seeing as how the domesticated ferret is not a protected species, you can do whatever you want to do to it, as long as it's not classed as cruelty. Well that clears that up then, exactly what i 'thought' i knew
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totally agree with you Theres nothing illegal about euthanising your own pets as far as im aware, as long as its humane. As far as i can see the antis cant get jack shit from this thread, people put there working animals to sleep as an alternative to the vet doing it. As long as nobody says anything daft i cant see a problem with this thread. is completely ilegal and an inappropriate subject for a this forum. fair enough pal, you obviously know more than me on the matter. ill leave it there
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Anybody had any experience with 3/4grey 1/4 beddy? How do they compare to the first cross?
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totally agree with you Theres nothing illegal about euthanising your own pets as far as im aware, as long as its humane. As far as i can see the antis cant get jack shit from this thread, people put there working animals to sleep as an alternative to the vet doing it. As long as nobody says anything daft i cant see a problem with this thread.
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Well obviously it depends on the situation, but if for instance one of mine took a bad mauling off of a dog or something similar then theres f**k all chance of it surviving. I dont think many would knock a ferret on the head just because it sneezed, lol.
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Agree with you 100% there matey. It only costs £5 for a small animal consultation at my local vets, that's feck all to pay so you can at least find out what's wrong with the ferret in the first place. i agree but i do no someone who had to wack a kit over the head because it was never quite right and couldnt walk properly so he just put it out its misery Yeh deffinately, i havent got a problem with anyone who does the deed themselves, if mine ever need to be pts then i wont f**k about with a vet, not because of finances but becuase i can do it as well as any vet and a damn site fa
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I agree. This is the reality for most WORKING animals, ferrets/dogs or whatever. Pet owners often love their animals to death, the life of a worker can seem harsh but imo fair. Saying that i cant stand the attitude, "its only a ferret, just a fiver"! f****n sickens me
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I wasn't saying that if people werent members of BASC or CA or if they didn't donate that they were antis...Was simply thinking aloud at ways they could be kept away...My post does also say that these ideas wouldn't work because of the reasons you pointed out... Definitley agree with you about the posts people make though, if people were more thoguthful before they posted then the antis would have no ammunition to use against us and it wouldn't matter that they were here anyway! I agree with your post mate but like you say, it aint that simple. Didnt mean to sound like i was having a