Born Hunter
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Ive never once said that or implied it ... What I keep saying is no training is the equal to a live combat situation ... Put the best trained civilian and a combat veteran in the same scenario and see which one prevails .......... I apologise then mate, this debate has spanned three different threads now so I've probably inferred a few things wrongly. I would have to agree with you on that. Experience is certainly the best teacher.
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I've got a lot of interests and a curious mind, that's all, I no more want to be a soldier than I want to be a naturalist, historian, politician or astrophysicist. Some things get my interest. I'm reading Darwin now for instance. I'm a geek, that's well established, I don't hide that. LOL I don't play f***ing airsoft at the weekends! Don't lie born we all know that on the weekends you march up and down the garden saluting the gnomes and in the afternoon you don your headband and head into the ferns to be all tactical lol ........ The term is 'tacti-cool'! And my team of gnomes salute me
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All that really very strongly resonates with me. And something you said earlier, in the UK anybody that puts value on guns is immediately labelled Rambo and a hard ass wannabe. It's total bullshit. I've probably told you but a couple years back I found myself in Fort Worth, Texas, and my brief experience with the pro gun lot over there was refreshing! I would not want to live there but that's for reasons other than the guns, just not a place I would feel at home if that makes sense.
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It's good to see you back on here Chris. I hope all is well in the land of the free? You can certainly bring experience to this debate that not many of us this side of the Atlantic can.
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A more comprehensive look at the facts of US gun control,
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That's not old school at all! Anybody with a shred of intelligence and real experience has learnt that. I haven't meant to suggest that a civilian trained rigorously is just as effective in combat as a veteran infantry soldier who's probably seen a lifetime of violence and firefights. However, is it unreasonable to say that you could select and train civilians through a sufficiently rigorous regime to produce something of a similar standard to that of a soldier, police firearms officer etc? Obviously the proof of the pudding is in actual combat and I'm not denying that without this final t
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I've got a lot of interests and a curious mind, that's all, I no more want to be a soldier than I want to be a naturalist, historian, politician or astrophysicist. Some things get my interest. I'm reading Darwin now for instance. I'm a geek, that's well established, I don't hide that. LOL I don't play f***ing airsoft at the weekends!
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Wilf, many people have been very vocal about the reduction in size of our armed forces, particularly conservatives (even a few Conservatives too, lol). But their voices have been drowned by those shouting about every other political issue except defence. Literally hundreds of articles in mainstream media from defence analysts, former heads of intelligence and defence chiefs. I really can't see this as a bad thing. And if tomorrow I read about a Nimrod replacement and an increase in the Navy's Frigate fleet I'd welcome that too. I agree with you that this is not the fix that some seem t
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they be able buy there way in an out, it some lump cash for a small regiment It's not just for 22 SAS though. It's for our entire special operations forces from all the services, the RAF drone fleet alone is to be doubled in size. And that 2B is over 5 years, not an annual budget. On a similar note the intelligence services are increasing in man power by, I believe, 15%.
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Ahh your obviously stopping. Swing through...I didn't say I missed them! LOL were you ever in the armed forces ? born hunter i dont think you ever were were you? No. Have I implied otherwise?
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Ahh your obviously stopping. Swing through...I didn't say I missed them! LOL
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I honestly don't know how I get by day to day. What with my lack of ability to distinguish passive or aggressive life threatening behavior and my constant embassy seige fantasies. LOL Honestly, am I safe to have a driving license? That said, I have cut my finger to the bone gralloching bambi and broken a toe walking down the stairs in the past week. I manged not to kill anybody at the clay ground on Sunday though.
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Top paragraph.......ok so who is in a more terrifying situation.......a careful selected and expertly trained soldier or an everyday Joe who passed a training course ?......we,re going round in circles here but im of the opinion you cant put in what nature left out,you clearly think instinct can be trained into people. Bottom paragraph.....you,ve changed the question,nobody has been assaulted one person was waving a bat in a threatening manner the other was " looking " in a threatening manner who is the more dangerous threat ( who does he pull his gun on ) Yes these are simplified examples....
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Without a shadow of a doubt you are correct. If I'm shopping on the high-street and an Islamic hit squad start shooting the place up I want a fully tooled up SAS squadron to immediately kick the doors in and do what they do best. They're the best in the world and I want nothing short of that. In France at that rock concert, as soon as the French counter terror team got on the scene they went in and ended things like well honed professionals, but 89 are still in the morgue... Fact is they're not always around the corner for us, the police aren't always around to protect us from nasty people. T
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Top paragraph.......ok so who is in a more terrifying situation.......a careful selected and expertly trained soldier or an everyday Joe who passed a training course ?......we,re going round in circles here but im of the opinion you cant put in what nature left out,you clearly think instinct can be trained into people. Bottom paragraph.....you,ve changed the question,nobody has been assaulted one person was waving a bat in a threatening manner the other was " looking " in a threatening manner who is the more dangerous threat ( who does he pull his gun on ) Yes these are simplified exampl
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I don't think any of them have any desire to be anonymous, quite the opposite.
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Without a shadow of a doubt you are correct. If I'm shopping on the high-street and an Islamic hit squad start shooting the place up I want a fully tooled up SAS squadron to immediately kick the doors in and do what they do best. They're the best in the world and I want nothing short of that. In France at that rock concert, as soon as the French counter terror team got on the scene they went in and ended things like well honed professionals, but 89 are still in the morgue... Fact is they're not always around the corner for us, the police aren't always around to protect us from nasty people
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Without a shadow of a doubt you are correct. If I'm shopping on the high-street and an Islamic hit squad start shooting the place up I want a fully tooled up SAS squadron to immediately kick the doors in and do what they do best. They're the best in the world and I want nothing short of that. In France at that rock concert, as soon as the French counter terror team got on the scene they went in and ended things like well honed professionals, but 89 are still in the morgue... Fact is they're not always around the corner for us, the police aren't always around to protect us from nasty people
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Not to mention, case studies of the effects of CCW law introduction in the US have showed that such legislation results in no increase in accidental deaths. Armed citizens that want the responsibility that CCW carries aren't the headless chickens that some seem to think. And that's precisely what it is, it's a social responsibility.
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Sounds perfectly sensible to allow people with a long and proven track record to carry a concealed weapon......its the day course Andy Mcnab wannabee,s im not so sure of. It doesn't have to be a day course It could be far more stringent than military weapon handling tests,there will be people who post on here much more competent than a lot of soldiers. I would like to know who the people on here are that are much more competent than soldiers ....... Must admit i found that a curious comment as well ....im sure theres some pretty competent footballers on here as well but im not sure a
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Sounds perfectly sensible to allow people with a long and proven track record to carry a concealed weapon......its the day course Andy Mcnab wannabee,s im not so sure of. It doesn't have to be a day course It could be far more stringent than military weapon handling tests,there will be people who post on here much more competent than a lot of soldiers. I would like to know who the people on here are that are much more competent than soldiers ....... Must admit i found that a curious comment as well ....im sure theres some pretty competent footballers on here as well but im not sure a
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Up until now our strategy has been one of containment, the US has been quite open about this. I'm not sure why, maybe it's because it's easier to keep them in one place than force them to flee and regroup in North Africa or where ever and cause all the liberals to piss and whine about how intervention didn't work etc. Up until relatively recently IS posed a low terrorist threat outside of the Levant. The coalition didn't see a need to annihilate them, and there wasn't the political support to do that job. So, up until now, containment has been the strategy. Maybe, just maybe, now there
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Just because it's funny and topical,
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Then allow concerned and responsible citizens to be trained and tested to the standard necessary. If 5% of the population were trained militia that would make a he'll of a difference. On a sensible note, once you take out the kids and o.a.ps from the population, you're probably down to half what it actually is, so you'd be looking for 10% of what's left. Once you'd weeded out the Walter Mitty Rambo wannabes (read airsoft fans) and the nutjobs, and the people who don't want to, and the people with checkered pasts, and the stupid ones who couldn't pass the training, How many would you be left
