Right since the last post I've been out everyday training the retrieve is spot on, hand signals getting there (still more practice with left and right but she does understand). Whistle commands one tuneful pip sit and look at me very good even when running out to a retrieve, two short pips change direction yep coming along. Worked out where the real issues lie, she cannot be allowed to go after running game she will not stop, listen or return until she has fulfilled her obsession which is a bit of a cock coz wouldn't mind her helping out mates lurchers in the future. But as a lad off here know