ChrisJones
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Yes. Corporations aren't people. As I said in the previous post. That would be his prerogative, but it wouldn't be the right thing to do. If he wishes to exercise that right so be it. If his business model would last the course, I'd be surprised. I certainly wouldn't support him, and as I also stated earlier, there are plenty of other bakers that would have taken their custom, without quibble. This is 2015, decent folk wouldn't support that kind of business but if they chose to they should be allowed to without harassment. He has that right. His customers can choose to support him, or
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I've already commented that they can do as they please, but it wouldn't be the right thing to do. Exercising their freedoms reduces the freedoms of others. When I approach a political problem I ascertain whether this proposal will increase/reduce that. I'm a libertarian, yes, but I'm a human being first and foremost. I certainly wouldn't support a business that denies individuals access, and neither would other decent folk. Judging by the strides in equality that have been made in the last few decades I'm certainly not in a minority. Rights of a corporate entity versus those of people, peo
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I'm not familiar with this particular case but what was the problem. That they were gay or that he didn't want to write the slogan? I see what you mean about whole groups but we are talking about individuals. This particular baker is in the minority. He still deserves a degree of protection as such. Even if his beliefs prevented him from doing so he could have avoided this by selling them the cake, without the slogan? No? We haven't reached a society where hate crime laws aren't necessary but they could've gone to a baker that would have catered to them. I'm not going to stand outside
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Yes I do. If he wasn't willing to do it then they should have gone to someone who was. He's entitled to his beliefs, and should also be protected from discrimination and coercion. If Britain has indeed changed the law that you can sue for discrimination, based on a refusal to serve, then you're all f****d! Good luck with Blighty. I won't be back!
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What about him? Same rules apply. He doesn't have to sell. We don't have to buy. What's the problem?
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NASA astronaut, Scott Kelly, has tweeted some beautiful pictures from the International Space Station, over the last year but this latest one has the ufo crowd in a fuss... Here's a link to the New York Post
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I disagree there, Craggers. Have you seen the shit storm when the battery goes flat on the mobile...
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While I don't doubt you the real argument should be why you're watching I'm a Celebrity!
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Yes you can. The same way you can refuse service for practically every reason you can think of. It is a private place of business and you do not have to take the money and run the advert. You cannot force me to take your money so that I will further your agenda. No matter how it gets spun in the news. It's not an attack on your rights it's an outright subversion tactic as I highlighted above. If you're focussed on how the media will be used to coerce the cinema chain, on something controversial the problem isn't with subject matter it's with the bullying tactics used to achieve the objecti
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Considerable mention also goes to the Aussie film Red Dog!
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Yes you would be allowed to refuse anything you want to. Same as you don't watch gay islamic propaganda in your home. The media doesn't trump your rights and I seriously think the focus is all wrong, on this one.
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Tbh I think I suffer from bouts of depression ha, think it must be a seasonal thing. No worries, mate! I don't mind admitting that I bawled my eyes out at the finale!
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Cinema Paradiso was like that for me. I wasn't sleep deprived either.
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Does it matter? If anyone is offended by their refusal to show things then don't give them your money. They have every right to conduct whatever they feel like on their premises. If they refused to show an advert with a gay couple in it, don't give them your money. Or do. Whatever you feel is the best interest of your personal biases. Whether they showed the advert, or not, I couldn't really care but I'd rather not sit through a church advert, mosque advert, synagogue advert, etc because I came to watch a film. The CofE has got bigger problems, and should probably spend it's money
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The Church called the decision "plain silly" and warned it could have a "chilling" effect on free speech. No. It's not an attack on free speech at all. A private entity can allow/disallow anything it wants to, on it's premises. If the church wishes to protest the decision they have every right to. Same as the cinema chain has every right to decide what it shows, or doesn't.
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If someone is going to pay to watch that then I doubt they'd care if the CofE had a paid advert.
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Lambs to the slaughter...
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THL Chat?
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If I'm paying for a ticket to the pictures I don't want to see a religious advert, period. I'm not offended, I just don't want to see more fairytales than I've already paid for. If a private business doesn't want to secure adverts from a religious group then it's none of our f***ing business.
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America And Other Countries Don't Want Any Migrants.
ChrisJones replied to Lenmcharristar's topic in General Talk
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This place has been crawling with antis since day one... We're still here though!
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One of the greats, that is a terrible loss...
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