ChrisJones
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The assumption is that Islam will reach a point where it will dominate. The assumption that it will dominate if it reaches that point. It won't on both counts.
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I'm not sure. Do we have any [insert Geographical Location Here] muslims, on here? Depends on which bit they wish to identify with? Location or Literature. If they want to integrate and live normal first world lives, then why does it matter? The tide hasn't come... Like on Mars.
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Give Death Valley a miss, today. It's 47ºC, with 2% humidity, but with the windchill it only feels about 41ºC.
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Just to quote you, a few posts back... Which is it? I said British because we have Welsh and Scots, posters on here too. If it helps I can take the extra few seconds to type out the additional geographical locations... Which part of "I don't believe in institutionalised religion" don't you understand? English, Welsh, Scots, Cornish, Hebredian, Northern Irish, Mancunian, Scouse, Brummie, Geordie, Londoners, won't just suddenly convert to a bronze age mythology... So just to reiterate, as it's late for you, the "tide" of Islam, isn't coming. It won't come. It won'
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I tend to agree. It sure as shit isn't going to solve anything and it'll end up being a monster of thread. Possibly literally. General talk isn't going to solve the world's ills but could be extremely entertaining and if it gets a few people thinking about solutions rather than problems then who knows?
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My agenda! Classic! The truth is that Islam is only a threat to Britain, if Britain rolls over and accepts it. But they won't. Atheism and secularism are increasing faster and faster. I have more faith in the British than I do in Islam. If you wish to believe that your entire fabric of British existence is under threat, down to an old book, that's entirely up to you. Take two Anderson shelters and call me in the morning... However, it isn't. It never was.
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You need to look at little further back. They've been here for several generations. I've always had a problem with institutionalised religion. My point is that you're paranoid if you think that Islam will dominate Britain. It won't. So what if they do? Unless the British are going to roll over and allow, what is being perceived as Islamic Britain, it won't happen. If the British do roll over then they get what they deserve. I, personally, have more respect for them not to. Not Going
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I bet the ghost of the first homo sapien, to walk out of Africa, is pissing himself laughing...
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You just said muslims will take over and drive others out. I'm saying it isn't going to happen. Islam will not be a dominant force in the UK. Are you suggesting that if we remove the current barriers, which favours unsuitable minorities based on a quota system, and replace it with a system that allows the very best to participate, and excel, that would be worse?
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So enshrine equality across the board and allow those that can, and let them... do. If you remove all the barriers you remove all the quota restraints thus freeing up a system of appeasement and creating a system of ability.
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Are you suggesting that those that don't convert will just simply pack up and leave? Does this have the making of another THL epic?
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Again I can't help but agree with you. Like we said before about self sufficiency, and general awareness, wouldn't it be beneficial if we focused even the limited attention on the root cause of all of this? The complete incompetency of those we elected to manage our affairs? I don't think we were consulted at all. That's not an Islamic problem. It's a governmental problem.
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This is a pickle, isn't it! How far do you go to protect without enshrining one group over another? Could we successfully argue that if equality was administered, across the board, then there wouldn't be a need to issue specific legislation to protect individual groups?
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So? Double the delusion... It's a scare tactic because it would require 60million+ people to convert voluntarily, or by force. How many of your friends and neighbours would do that without putting up a struggle? If the British public would sit by and allow an armed takeover of the nation then they deserve everything they get. Looking at history over the last 100 years I'd bet heavily on the British not wanting a way of life forced on them.
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The point of me asking was to demonstrate what I already knew. You won't convert. Period. Neither will I, because it's complete nonsense. Neither will your 60million neighbours. Islamic Britain is a myth. It's a scare tactic. You're being played. He hadn't done anything wrong. He was released without charge.
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Again you're absolutely right but when the labour party refused to enter a dialogue about a British constitution why didn't anyone do anything about it? The difference here, is the constitution. Inalienable rights. Britain has a privilege variation but it's poorly understood. Poorly enforced but you still have the same rights as they do.
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Wrongfully arrested and was later released without charge?
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There are many people that speak out against Islam in England already. They're not in prison. The dream world is the Islamic nation that just isn't coming to Britain... Sorry. Will you be converting to Islam? Can't argue with that at all. I wouldn't dream of attempting to get the country to mold itself to my every whim. That would be ridiculous. I also agree with what you're saying regarding Britains inner city areas. I've lived and worked in them too, I'm not completely removed from the problem. My issue is the ideology which is causing, what I see as, all of the problems!
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When do you plan on converting to Islam?
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Your rights to free speech are live and well. The government's interpretation of them is flawed. You still have the right to speak with the same ferocity that they do.
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And I you WILF. We could sit there and say "What's Wrong With These People." but wouldn't it also help to see what else factors into the equation? It could be what's wrong. But what if there are other factors at play that we're not considering? Shouldn't we know the full extent of the problem before we create a solution based on incomplete/possibly flawed information?
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Personally I don't want any religious sect in Europe. But that's another thread. As a believer of free speech, though, I believe that you're just as entitled to vocalise your opinions as anyone else. If you wish to pray a certain way, a certain direction, even use it as a justification to eat/avoid certain foods, I couldn't really care less. Unless your belief system impedes on my also protected rights, and opinions. Race is an entirely different issue. If people want certain skin colours banished from Europe, their opinion is protected by the EU. If they take actions to secure such banish
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Islam isn't a race. Therefore you cannot be racist for criticizing it. Europe wouldn't vote on it because religious freedom is protected in the EU.
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Same can be said about being a white Britain walking around in all a predominantly white, non religious, city centre.
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The first phase has been and gone! When gold and silver was substituted paper and plastic.
