Were all your mates Borders shit then mate, if they were what were they doing breeding from/out of them, percentage wise there's very few working Borders around now but they are out there, that dog at the top of the second page was the equal of most terriers and better than most that I've seen Black, Chocolate, Red Black and Tan or White, rare as rocking horse shit but they are about, and that dog was a digging dog, not a ratter, busher or fox bolting dog