Well I don't know about that, I don't smack my boys, maybe a bit in jest , they know they'd get one if they justified it, ban or no ban, I'm being somewhat tested at the moment of late. I find it easier not to be dragged into a discussion with them where as the wife will debate I tend to instruct without debate unless I feel they have a genuine question of my reasoning, which is rare they just want to push boundaries and draw attention, kid stuff. But far easier to deal with now than when they're late teens. I do see that certain pals rub off on them and I pull them on it, I also know when the