never weighed my dog but cant see his pins unless he is walking long strides, i like to keep him this way till the cold nights really hit then i will bump him up a bit .. also to add my dog will show about 4 ribs (last ones) to me he is at his perfect weight to run like this
girlfriends dog is always a bit heavy, show him food and he seems to put weight on i put that down to being the beardie collie in him , he would survive of just the table scraps if thats all he got