Hi Deker, i agree with you i also think the .22WMR is far in front of the .17HMR because of all the reasons you have given, i used a .17 for about 18 months, found it very good on rabbits, but a bit dodgy for fox got rid and got myself a hornet K Havent used the WMR on live quarry but a guy uses one at the rifle range, very impressive hitting power and accuracy at 100 & 200 yards when zeroed, he uses it on rabbits regularly and has also taken the odd fox recons its a great little tool for mooching about Not sure what make it is, but it is self loading and great fun to use,
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