I agree with C. green here ....... a lot of the well bred litters are usually long planned and long awaited, and there are never enough pups. I got a bull x bitch pup off a mate, seven pups in the litter, owner of the dam kept two, owner of the sire kept two, me and another close mate of the dams owner had one, and best mate of the sires owner had one. That’s mostly how it happens. And in theory none of those lads will need another pup for five years, and hopefully the best of those pups will be bred and everyone will have new pups to run. Everyone gave something for the pups, but not money, I